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Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:05 am
by Erik Mortis
It is the desire of the Imperial Government that the lands of Elwynn remain in Shireroth. To this goal, I offer the Elwynn government the chance to come here and voice the concerns. It is my hope to find a solution that appeases Elwynn and will end this conflict with a united Shirerithian Nation.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:11 am
by Jonas
*Takes a gun and some pitchforks.*

Errr... you never know with those Ellwynese... :fish :p

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:27 pm
by Daniel Farewell
To the Government of Shireroth:

Your Imperial Majesty, Kaiser of Shireroth,
Your Excellency, Steward of Shireroth,

It is with great joy the Elwynnese government hears of the possibilities of beginning negotiations with your Majesty's government in Shirekeep. Elwynn is currently drafting its positition on negotiations and hopes to give you a positive response on negotiations in the near future.

May your Majesty and your Excellency please be assured of my highest considerations.

Daniel.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:52 pm
by Daniel Farewell
Your Imperial Majesty,
Your Excellencies,

The Elwynnese Government is pleased to announce its willingness to begin negotiations with the Imperial Shirerithian Government subject to the conditions outlined in this letter met.

In seeking serious dialogue that actually may lead to something greater for both parties, a delegation consisting of two accredited ministers from each State shall meet in a neutral location behind sealed doors. The promises resulting in a communiqué shall be binding on both parties. The equal treatment of the delegates shall be fundamental, as well the mutual understanding between the parties that both parties are distinct polities, each one holding sovereignty and the right to self-determination at the time of the commencement of negotiations.

Daniel.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:55 pm
by Jonas
The Kildarian Dutchy proposes to hold the meeting in Apollo City. The Kildari assure that none of both factions will get harmed, imprisoned, etc.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:11 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Kildare is a part of the Imperial Republic of Shireroth. A neutral venue would be a third party power.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:16 pm
by Harald of Froyalan
What about holding the negotiations in Stormark?

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:34 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Nelaga would be willing, should the parties agree.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:56 pm
by Kaiser B'caw I
The equal treatment of the delegates shall be fundamental, as well the mutual understanding between the parties that both parties are distinct polities, each one holding sovereignty and the right to self-determination at the time of the commencement of negotiations.
Would it suffice to state agreement that this is true based on the de facto state of affairs, without reference to its de jure status?

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:22 pm
by CJ Miller
Safiria would be willing to host these negotiations.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:40 pm
by Erik Mortis
At this time Shireroth views Elwynn not as a foreign, but as a domestic power. Whether that changes would be based on the outcome of the negotiation. Shireroth openly states it desire for Elwynn to remain a domestic power. However, it was my hope to find a way to make this feasible and palatable for both sides.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:38 am
by Daniel Farewell
Your Majesty,
Your Excellencies,

In light of the LOAs upcoming, perhaps we should assume negotiations once His Majesty returns?

Daniel.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:37 am
by Jonas
Daniel Farewell wrote:Your Majesty,
Your Excellencies,

In light of the LOAs upcoming, perhaps we should assume negotiations once His Majesty returns?

Daniel.
Or now! Erik can act as representative while the Kaiser is away.
Besides, the first part of the negotiations will be just us listening to your claims. :document

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:57 am
by Daniel Farewell
Jonas,

I believe that the Elwynnese part has already made its negotiant stance clear through previous letters sent.

Daniel.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:01 am
by Jonas
If you are looking for a neutral area: go to Treesia City, it's ruled by the SC if I remember right. :document

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:04 am
by Daniel Farewell
Or, we could just fly off to Nelaga? Been a while since I gazed down on the sea from the Flying Islands... :)

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:06 am
by Jonas
Daniel Farewell wrote:Or, we could just fly off to Nelaga? Been a while since I gazed down on the sea from the Flying Islands... :)
Good idea! I advise you to surely visit Maraguo Island with its old Matbaa architectures (the ruins of Kerkboran are in a beautiful Persian style). :document :angel

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:31 am
by Erik Mortis
Or I could just set up a forum here for this, give you, ardy, the kaiser and myself access and we can hammer this out without all the...
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Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:37 am
by Jonas
But I want to see the negotiations... :cry

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:41 am
by Erik Mortis
They requested them to be private. I'm inclined to be okey with that. But I have no interest in getting foreign nations involved.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:57 am
by Jonas
Erik Mortis wrote:They requested them to be private. I'm inclined to be okey with that. But I have no interest in getting foreign nations involved.
No problem. But would the representatives mind if I'm just looking and not saying anything? :angel

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:04 am
by Aurangzeb Khan
With respect to Erik, our conditions have been clearly spelt out. I will advise that the Provisional Government ought to be minded to accept the Nelagan offer of negotiating facilities.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:00 pm
by Erik Mortis
Those condition aren't acceptable. I recognize the you all desire to become an independent state as a possible outcome, but as it stands you are not.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:04 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Erik,

If you are not even willing to concede the location of the talks - this bodes very poorly. Perhaps we should wait for the return of the Kaiser before arranging these talks formally.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:09 pm
by Erik Mortis
I'm skipping this bs and just trying to talk to ric directly.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:13 pm
by Harvey Steffke
I'd like to point out that Nelaga is not offering political shelter or refuge to the Elwyneese (though, if they seek in independently, it will be granted on a person-by-person basis) but instead just a location to hammer out your differences without either party having direct control of the talks.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:13 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Erik,

That is rather redundant as we are still discussing whatever you say.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:20 pm
by Erik Mortis
Yeah.. well. trying to do it this way was leading to the cliche negotiation bs...

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:31 pm
by Jonas
Why should we move discussions to an other forum? I agree with Erik on this one.

Re: Negotiations with Elwynn

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:33 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
We however disagree and the present indirect discussions will be discontinued if the Shirerithian party cannot comprehend and follow a simple request.