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"Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:08 pm
by Daniel Farewell
Honourable Councillors of Eliria,
We have an important decision to make, what the non-warcraft name for these lands shall be called.
Our eminent kaiser proposes that we change it to Eluin, but that for me is an ugly word. Adding an a to it might give it some goodities. --> Eluina
But here is an idea...
The old Norse name for river is elfR (elf-), in modern Nordic languages elvur, elfur,älv and elv. The suffix for female or goddess is "ynja", in modern Nordic languages "inde", "inna" and "ynja".
Combining these elements give us "Elfynja" (Icelandic), "Elvynja" (Faroese), Elvinde (Danish), "Elvinne" or Elvinna in Norwegian, and Älvinna in Swedish.
However, it could be possible that the Elw and Elfinshi influence the name of the goddess.
Also,in the Hyperborean I learnt, Lewen was the word for Elwynn. Other words I know are Andurelw (land of the Elw), Elwys. "Andurelwys" looks good.
Just a few ideas.
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:21 pm
by Kaiser Ikol II
Lewen is obsolete Kadhamic Hyperborean; the Duchy itself is called Lirikoth, but I wouldn't want to Hyperboreanize over Elwynnese culture.
I'd rather avoid anything that sounds too closely derived from "elf" or "elven" just because those have bad associations for me - which rules out "elfynja" and the like. Andurelw sounds too Tolkienesque (Anduril was the name of Aragorn's sword).
Elvinde isn't bad. Maybe make it something like Ellvinde so it looks less elf-y? We can also go for other things that sounds like "Elwynn" when pronounced, like Ellwin or something. I'd also be happy with Duchy of Eliria.
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:25 pm
by Daniel Farewell
Eliria is a good compromise, but what we need to discuss its not only the name of the lands (former duchy), but also the river and the goddess, and the relationship between these three. Its an inherent part of our culture.
Which makes it a lot more complicated than just making Goldshire Goldenmoon.
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:28 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Eluinea and variations of will do for me thanks.
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:32 pm
by Daniel Farewell
What if we make the "e" an "a"?
Alwynn, Aluinea, Alwynea, Albwyn, Albwind, Alwind, Elwind...
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:34 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Aluinea then. I could probably create a false Babki etymology for that. Aluinzamin...
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:35 pm
by Kaiser Ikol II
The "a" doesn't really do it for me. Makes it look too Olde English, for some reason. I wish we could get something pronounced the same as Elwynn. Does Elluwin set off your ugly word detector? Elluvin?
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:36 pm
by Daniel Farewell
Elluwin is ugly. Elluvin too
Haha!
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:37 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
I don't know about him but Elluwin sets off mine.
Edit: We concur. No.
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:41 pm
by Kaiser Ikol II
So you guys prefer Aluinea to Eluinea? Mrg. Okay, let's get creative here. What about Elpynn, with
the "p" pronounced as a "w"?
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:43 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Nice - but it reminds me of the Crandans (not necessarily a good thing).
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:45 pm
by Daniel Farewell
Eldwyn? Eldwind? Elduin?
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:46 pm
by Kaiser Ikol II
One more thing I just noticed - "Ellwyn" has a lot of Google results, none of which are Warcraft. If Brookshire was willing to change their name, we could totally just do "Ellwyn" without anyone being able to prove a Warcraft connection.
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:48 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Oelƿynngia (~Sorry...)
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:50 pm
by Daniel Farewell
I don't like that, reminds me of a Swedish priestly family

Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:51 pm
by Daniel Farewell
Elwymb?

Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:54 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Mesoelwyia.

Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:28 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Okay. Democracy in action time. Hence forth the lands of Elwynn shall be known as Eluinea. Anyone who says to the contrary will be defenestrated. Questions?
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:41 pm
by Kaiser Ikol II
I thought Daniel's whole problem was that he didn't like the sound of that, and that was why we started this whole...okay, shutting up now.
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:01 am
by Daniel Farewell
I'll shut up too. Eluinea it is!
Re: "Elwynn"
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:44 am
by Aurangzeb Khan
Excellent. We are in accord then. I do enjoy this notion of consensus based decision making.