Shireroth

Thank you so very much for this. If anyone of you took the "u suck im leaving lol" thread seriously, you need to get your head examined. I was very clear that I do not accept Aryeztur as Duke, and he didn't support me, so I didn't try to claim it but wanted to give it to Erik instead. You took it anyway. So this is what is going to happen now unless you want a full-scale Lakhesian rebellion:

1. Erik is made Duke of Goldenbrook.
2. Lakhesis status as a Barony is confirmed.
3. Lakhesis territorial integrity is confirmed. We don't need Musica.

Failure to meet these simple demands, and we had an agreement regarding the first one, will result in a Lakhesian rebellion.

YOU LEFT!
You can't blame me, nor anyone else that everyone took that message serious. It's not the first time that someone leaves and still stays around for a while.

But if I was your Duke, I should agree with 2 and 3.

I DID NOT LEAVE! Ari saw that it was a joke, why are the rest of you so dense?

Malliki Tosha wrote:I DID NOT LEAVE! Ari saw that it was a joke, why are the rest of you so dense?

http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 29#p147429

Should I have used smilies or what? Talk to Ari, I'm just not getting through.

I have the benefit of #micronations, though, and of having seen you largely act normally and not all leaving-in-a-huff-y there last night. It's difficult for me to tell whether just what you said on the forum is enough to reasonably determine your mood.

Exactly. I have not been in the chatroom lately. So all I see is what you posted to your "I'm leaving" thread. No emotes. No indication that it was a joke besides the fish net et all antics. But I've seen similar stuff happen from people who were really leaving.

Calm down. Although I was 90% sure that your leaving was a joke, the Internet is notoriously bad at stuff like that, Jonas is probably all on edge from stuff, and it's completely understandable that he would miss it.

Anyway, Aryeztur has said many times that he's trying to limit his micronational involvement and doesnt want a ducal job. He'll abdicate, give the throne to Malliki or Erik or whoever, and everything will be okay.

Am I right, Aryeztur?

For all the one-liner zingers its been giving you guys, you have to admit my little conspiracy at least got everyone on the same page to avoid really stupid situations like this. It seems impossible to talk things out on the forums these days without it degenerating rapidly.

Harvey Steffke wrote:For all the one-liner zingers its been giving you guys, you have to admit my little conspiracy at least got everyone on the same page to avoid really stupid situations like this. It seems impossible to talk things out on the forums these days without it degenerating rapidly.

Indeed, it's much better to conspire and stab people in the back.

I just have a question: since when should anything posted in the SHRINE be taken seriously?

Kaiser Leto III wrote:

Harvey Steffke wrote:For all the one-liner zingers its been giving you guys, you have to admit my little conspiracy at least got everyone on the same page to avoid really stupid situations like this. It seems impossible to talk things out on the forums these days without it degenerating rapidly.

Indeed, it's much better to conspire and stab people in the back.

Exactly! It's nice to finally agree on something.

I just have a question: since when should anything posted in the SHRINE be taken seriously?

Errr... since you told us that you left? And I wasn't the only one who thought you were serious, so don't blame me (too much).
But I'm sure that an agreement can be reached if Aryetzur shows up. But, when I look to decree 1, they are already cooperating together.

Harvey Steffke wrote: Exactly! It's nice to finally agree on something.

Okay? The reason I posted in the Shrine was so people wouldn't take it seriously, yet you do. Would you have slit your wrists if I had posted in General?

You announced the return of Cyberia in the shrine, and now it has returned. So, we had reasons to take it as serious as when you posted it in General.

But once more: I'm HAPPY it was just a joke and not true.

I annouced it in the Shrine because it was off-topic, as in not related to Shireroth.

Anyone not from this Duchy.. Out.. This is our issue. Jonas. Out. Seriously. Stop mucking things up.

Mike. Your Barony and its lands are confirmed. I saw to that last night.

Thank you for that. I still want Aryez gone.

I'll agree to 2 and 3. You accept me as Duke and maybe we can cooperate and get things going. Or you can continue crying like a baby. Do you leave your country if someone you don't like gets elected as Prime Minister? No.

For the love of the Gods, I did not leave! The Shrine of Fucking Controversy, an obvious joke post!

Of course I accept 1, I proposed it. The rebellion will end as soon as you abdicate.

Authority in Shireroth is a strange thing, Aryeztur. You have to walk behind the people to lead them. Are you sure you are the right leader for Goldenbrook?

That was a typo on my part. In any case, I'm letting you have your lands intact and everything but you should acknolwdge me as Duke. You should know that Erik will become Duke soon anyhow and I already made him my heir.


Anyhow, I offered reconciliation and cooperation to Malliki and Erik when I became Duke. Erik and I talked and worked out a lot of things. Malliki however remains uncooperative. I offered cooperation and all. He has no reason to revolt. It's not like I'm screwing with his Barony or plan to screw with anything in former Brookshire.

You know and knew that I didn't support you as Duke, just as you did not support me. The rebellion continues until you're gone from the throne.

Yeah but then you left meaning I was the only person left. As others have said, it was hard to tell if it was a joke or not. I thought it was genuine. I thought you got pissed the coup attempt failed.

I didn't support you as Duke but I wouldn't have revolted. I would have retired to my estate in Khorze and gone into isolation had you become Duke.

You could have asked if I was really leaving. Instead you chose to exclude me from the beginning.

I didn't choose to do so. I talked to Erik last night because he was around then. You weren't. As for talking to you, sure I'd love to, but who talks to a person who acts so hostile towards them. I prefer not to interact with someone who is throwing insults at me.

Malliki Tosha wrote:You could have asked if I was really leaving. Instead you chose to exclude me from the beginning.

Why? You said YOU WERE LEAVING. Why would we ask for a confirmation? Even if it's in the shrine of controversy, that DOESN'T mean it can't be serious (enough proof). Then it's normal that people interpret it wrong: we already have several people who thought you were serious, so don't blame us for your actions. The situation could have been totally different if we knew it was a joke.

The facts:
1. You left. Now we know it was a joke.
2. Erik on semi-LOA. Said he would take the job if he was asked.
3. Aryetzur was the only one enthusiastic enough to do the job.

Every sane Kaiser would appoint Aryetzur in such a case. But because it's happening during my reign, you're all saying "Oooh! What a mistake!"

That said, I don't mind seeing you, Aryetzur, Erik or someone else on the throne.

Can you just stay out of it, Jonas? You have messed things up enough.

What should have done Jonas was stay out of this and wait until we came to you and ASKED for a decree. Instead you jumped the gun.. again.