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Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:42 pm
by AryezturMejorkhor
Should we rename our title Baron to Earl?

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:14 pm
by Harvey Steffke
No, Brookshire is stupid. :p

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:17 pm
by Yvain Wintersong
No, we should not.

The title "Baron" has been part of Shirerithian history for at least five years now, and is still the standard in five out of the six Duchies. One would need a good reason to change it, and despite the antics of the Earl of Dolor, so far none has been provided.

I will mention three further points: first, that to me Earl is and will always be an overweight redneck chewing tobacco and saying "Mah name is Earl, buh mah friends cawl me Bubba." Second, that in the real world, the title "earl" is identical to the title of "count", which would only aggravate the confusion and illogic of the modern Shirerithian feudal system. And third, at one point the Duchy of Elwynn was using "earl" to mean "count", and for Goldshire to use the same word for "Baron" would be needlessly confusing.

I am open to changes in Goldshire's feudal system or in its terminology, but "Earl" will not be one of them.

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:31 pm
by Malliki Tosha
I agree with pretty much everything Yvain said, but saw no reason to go against a unanimous decision of the GK. If Erik wants to be an Earl, so be it.

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:47 pm
by Harvey Steffke
So you say, but you voted in favor and did so before it was a unanimous decision.

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:27 pm
by Malliki Tosha
I had reason to believe it would be unanimous. Plus I like the use of the GK.

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:44 pm
by AryezturMejorkhor
Hm, okay. We'll keep the title "Baron" for now.

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:48 pm
by Erik Mortis
Yeah.. Honestly. I just felt like being different, for now.

I would suggest not changing unless there's a good reason. Note how I didn't suggest changing all the barons to earls in brookshire, just me.

And now I'm wondering if that was a good idea after reading Yvain's statement.

Re: Baron to Earl?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:59 pm
by Malliki Tosha
I thought about the same things as well before I voted on the name change, but you wanted it and I saw no good reason to stand in the way. The titles in Shireroth are pretty out-of-place anyway, with the only exception being Duke, and Marquess in Brookshire.