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General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:46 am
by Erik Mortis
Treaty of General Membership to the Small Commonwealth
1. There is a commonwealth, called the Small Commonwealth, which shall consist of all signatory members of this Treaty. All member nations may send one representative to the Commonwealth Assembly.
2. Nations wishing to join the commonwealth must be approved by the Commonwealth Assembly with at least a 1/3rd plurality. If rejected, a nation may reapply in 3 months.
3. The commonwealth's day to day operations are headed and overseen by a chairman known as the Primate which shall be a permanent position once appointed by the Commonwealth Assembly. The Primate oversees the Commonwealth Assembly.
3b. The Commonwealth Assembly may elect an official known as the Secundus, subject to all the same election and removal procedures as the Primate, whom shall be vested with the responsibility of assisting the Primate. Should the Primate be unavailable or unable to fulfill his/her duties the Secundus shall stand in for the Primate, until available, or a new one is elected.
4. At any time the Commonwealth Assembly may hold a vote of no confidence and remove the current Primate. A simple majority (50%+1) is needed to remove a Primate and elect a new one. This vote is managed by the representative who proposed it.
5. Nations may leave at any time, but must give public notice of their intent to leave this treaty for it to be recognized. Upon leaving this treaty the departing nation is removed from all other treaties dependent upon this one.
6. This treaty may be amended by the Commonwealth Assembly with a 3/4th (75.0%) majority.
This amendment would create the "vice-Primate" position to be known as the Secundus. The Secundus would be my back up and assistant if needed. No special powers are given the position. It's just to make sure if I, or any other future Primate, vanishes we can still function.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:47 am
by Erik Mortis
Shireroth votes Aye.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:03 am
by Arviður
Amending a Treaty is not something to do at a whim, since it would, at least in Hurmu's case re-ratify the entire treaty. The Diet of Hurmu approved one version of the treaty, and now this is another. I must therefore submit it to the Diet. Stay tuned
In the meantime, Hurmu abstains.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:09 am
by Erik Mortis
I wouldn't expect anything less. I figure this will proly take a week to get everyone to deal with it.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:06 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Discussion on the matter has been opened in Nelaga.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:16 pm
by Nathan of Natopia
Natopia votes AYE
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:58 am
by Harald of Froyalan
Stormark votes Aye on this amendment.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:35 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Nelaga has approved this amendment and votes AYE.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:55 pm
by Erik Mortis
So far, 4-0 in favor of the Amendment. I'll give this more time.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:47 am
by Nihill Romez
The debate is going on right now in the Republiek. I'll vote as soon as i get permission of our parliament.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:05 pm
by Andreas the Wise
I need permission to sign new treaties, so I'm still getting that.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:48 am
by Maximilian
Batavia votes AYE.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:32 pm
by Arviður
Hurmu has ratified the amendment.
Thus, Hurmu casts a vote in favour.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:47 pm
by Aster
Discussions opened in Ashkenatza concerning this matter.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:09 pm
by Erik Mortis
6-0 in favor. Two more and it's ratified I think.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:29 am
by Maximilian
Nope, not really. As we are with eleven member states 8.25 states have to vote in favor of the amendment. Therefore eight states isn't enough, hence nine states have to vote in favor.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:53 am
by Jonas
Where are the representatives of those countries?

Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:01 am
by Björn Ironfist
I believe we have several working to get things approved by whatever procedures are required in those nations. Not everyone has lightning fast legislative frenzies.

Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:59 am
by Nihill Romez
The Republiek der Nederlanden votes aye.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:47 am
by Erik Mortis
7-0. We should probably adopt a time limit on votes and just go with who ever has voted in that time frame. I suggest 7 days. That way we aren't held up by inactive nations, such as Antica has been suggested it will be. (since they ONLY want to be in the economy). It's up to nations to pay attention to what's going on here.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:50 am
by Jonas
Erik Mortis wrote:7-0. We should probably adopt a time limit on votes and just go with who ever has voted in that time frame. I suggest 7 days. That way we aren't held up by inactive nations, such as Antica has been suggested it will be. (since they ONLY want to be in the economy). It's up to nations to pay attention to what's going on here.
I would propose taking some more time: some nations are a bit slower. But in cases like Amokolia: they should have the possibility to vote immediately (there is only one ruler).
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:02 pm
by Maximilian
I agree with Jonas. Because we are amending the treaty on which this organization is founded, I think we can wait a little longer. We just need two more nations. Since Andreas says he's busy with getting permission and stuff I think Gralus will vote in favor in the coming days. Amokolia can sign anytime Jess wants, since he is the only citizen of Amokolia. I don't know about Livlandia, because I do not really know the nation, but Ashkenatza is probably discussing this right now. There is no reason to be against this amendment, which makes ten votes in favor.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:15 pm
by Erik Mortis
Yeah. I wasn't gonna set a time limit on this vote. But in the future I probably will. And just base the percentage on who votes. By my way we are at 100% support. So even if no one else votes, it'll pass.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:03 pm
by Jess
Amokolia AYE
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:02 pm
by Erik Mortis
8-0 Go us.
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:08 am
by Aster
methinks AYE
Re: General Membership Amendment: "Vice-Primate"
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:32 am
by Erik Mortis
9-0 it passes!