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Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:30 pm
by Jonas
Prodigy Almighty wrote:
Jonas wrote:Oh no! :no
:o JONAS SAID OH NO INSTEAD OF OW NO! :surprise
OW NO!!
Actually, I can show you some other topics where I wrote 'oh' instead of 'ow'. :thumbsup

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:38 pm
by Malliki
Jacobus Loki wrote:The equality amendment was meant to

A- Restore one duke, one vote.
B- Prevent the Anchluss of one duchy by another. :document
A - Regardless, it has no place in the Charter. Furthermore, according to the Charter (at least until you amended it), voting percentages and internal rules are for the Landsraad alone to decide.

B - So you respond to some friendly bickering with a Charter amendment? There is no risk as I see it that a duchy could ever get annexed by another duchy against the will of its duke. The law protects the duchies.

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:46 pm
by Erik Mortis
Law that you screwed with...

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:53 pm
by Malliki
Hmm... Law that I screwed with? :surprise

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:13 pm
by Jacobus Loki
I was the one "screwing with laws", Mike. You were being Arbiter.

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:25 pm
by Malliki
Probably, but you can't blame me for interpreting
Mike Fors wrote:The law protects the duchies.
Erik Mortis wrote:Law that you screwed with...
As being aimed at me. Probably not, but I'm a bit POed at this whole situation, so I'm reading a lot into stuff right now.

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:33 pm
by Jacobus Loki
Probably not, but I'm a bit POed at this whole situation, so I'm reading a lot into stuff right now.
I hear that. Our medium does not lend itself well to the wink and nod and silly voice/walk.

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:13 pm
by Erik Mortis
My comment was an extension of yours, not a response Mike.

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:19 pm
by Malliki
I thought so. I'll just put it down to a misinterpretation by me brought on by lack of :sleep ...

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:28 pm
by Andreas the Wise
You've probably said this already but I'm too lazy to trawl through another thousand posts to find it.
No Duke or Duchy shall be deprived of it's equality without the consent of the Kaiser, the Duke of the Duchy concerned, and the Landsraad.
Corey was happy with the new economic system. All the other Dukes seemed willing to give it a try for at least a month. It could quite easily still be valid under this ... (until we have time to rebel and remove that clause, anyway :demon )

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:31 pm
by Erik Mortis
My Kaisership will remove it...

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:47 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Jonas, your case for Kaisership is growing thin ....

Re: Imperial Decree 337 - Amending the Charter.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:01 am
by Malliki
Andreas the Wise wrote:You've probably said this already but I'm too lazy to trawl through another thousand posts to find it.
No Duke or Duchy shall be deprived of it's equality without the consent of the Kaiser, the Duke of the Duchy concerned, and the Landsraad.
Corey was happy with the new economic system. All the other Dukes seemed willing to give it a try for at least a month. It could quite easily still be valid under this ... (until we have time to rebel and remove that clause, anyway :demon )
Yes, but this introduces a new decision procedure. It needs express consent from the Kaiser, not just something we think he thinks, it requires express consent from any affected Duke and express consent from the Landsraad. Until such a measure is introduced under this amendment, the old Erb-for-votes system is illegal. If something similar was introduced and given consent from the Kaiser, the dukes and the Landsraad, it would probably be okay. I hope my reasoning is clear. Also, the old system was the target for this amendment, if we circumvene the amendment, what good is it? Why is it there? (Something I asked myself from the beginning...)