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Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:51 pm
by Erik Mortis
The other parts I like...
What if we have layers of interconnection. Kinda how the EU is made by several different treaties, and you can be a member in parts of it, but don't need to be part of all of it. (as I understand it), like not all nations use the Euro.
We could have several Treaties that comprise this. 1 for general membership, 1 for military alliance, 1 for joint economy, 1 for cultural exchange...etc..etc..etc.. 1 for giving your sovereignty over to Shireroth
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:05 pm
by Malliki
Me like the Erik idea. Idea good.
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:14 pm
by Kaiser Loki III
Good.
Can I have volunteers (I mean Volunteers, not subcontractors) to write this up into a better charter.
His role, if any official at all, should perhaps be more like the Queen's role in the Commonwealth of Nations
.
That's the general direction I'm heading. Heck, I'll yield the Secretary-Generalship to whoever is willing to start the ball rolling.
PS - Dear Ari
The Kaiser would like a forum in the Shirekeep City Center for this project. Thank you very kindly!
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:16 pm
by Jess
I will write a Constitution for the Commonwealth.
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:42 pm
by Erik Mortis
I thought we liked the layers idea? Wouldn't we write a general membership treaty. Then write other treaties that added layers?
something like.
Treaty of General Membership
1. There is a commonwealth
2. Nations may join it with consent of the general membership
3. The commonwealth's day to day operations are headed and overseen by a <insert fancy title here>
4. Some fancy way to determine the <fancy title here>.
5. Nations may leave at any time, but need to say so publicly.
Treaty of non-shit-kicking each other
1. signatory members have signed the General Membership Treaty.
2. Signatory nations will not attack each other.
3. If there is a dispute between signatory nations they will bring it before the <insert assembly's name here> for arbitration.
4. Signatory nations may exit this treaty at any time with notice.
Treaty of Joint Economies
1. signatory members have signed the General Membership Treaty.
2. Signatory nations agree to use a united economic system.
3. Signatory nations may exit this treaty at any time with notice.
Treaty of Shared Currency
1. Signatory members have signed the General Membership Treaty and the Joint Economies Treaty.
2. Signatory nations agree to use a single currency named <insert name> (Erb?).
3. Signatory nations may exit this treaty at any time with notice.
Treaty of Kaiser Niftification
1. Signatory nations have signed the General Membership Treaty.
2. Signatory nations recognize the Kaiser of Shireroth as their over all Head of State/Monarchy/Empire (whatever terms makes sense...)
3. Signatory nations do not relinquish their sovereignty to Shireroth when signing this treaty.
4. The Kaiser of Shireroth is not granted any inherent powers in signatory nations with the signing of this treaty.
5. Signatory nations may leave this treaty at any time, with notice.
The Treaty of Killing Things Together That Annoy Us.
1. Signatory Nations must have signed the General Membership Treaty.
2. Signatory nations agree to come to the aid of other signatory nations in times of armed conflict.
3. This treaty is not invoked if the source of the conflict was a signatories military obligations in a military treaty with a nation not a signatory of this treaty. (no WW1 type situations)
4. Nations desiring to sign must be approved by other signatory nations.
5. Signatory Nations may leave this treaty at any time, with notice.
Warning.. I keep editing and fixing this...
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:10 am
by Andreas the Wise
Ari, the forum ... I cannot access it.
Erik - I'll discuss the joint economy thing when we get into the forum. This is probably something I'll have to take to the entire Landsraad when we're done.
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:13 am
by Ari Rahikkala
Ack, forgot that you have to set where top-level forums' permissions get copied from. Should be working now.
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:24 am
by Erik Mortis
I figured the joint economy Treaty would be a "down the road" issue. I was just putting forth some draft outlines.
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:37 am
by Andreas the Wise
Erik Mortis wrote:I figured the joint economy Treaty would be a "down the road" issue. I was just putting forth some draft outlines.
I know, but we might as well hack at it now before people come up with their own economic systems ....
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:38 am
by Erik Mortis
Fair enough. Let us move to the new forum...
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:36 am
by Kaiser Loki III
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:09 pm
by Gman Russell
I need to stop leaving...
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:15 am
by Maksym Hadjimehmetov
2. Signatory nations agree to use asingle currency named <insert name> (Erb?).
I am not amused
Seriously, though- micronationalists are generally too egotistical to relinquish any power- even to just a figurehead of sorts- this would only work with a rotating Presidency. Either that or you guys all accept the
Nohsi of Ashkenatza as ruler
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:22 am
by b3n|<3r|\|
If they are too egotistical to relinquish, then they don't have to sign that Treaty.
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:11 am
by Kaiser Loki III
Hey, put on your "foreigner" hats or your Shirithian hats, and come to the Commonwealth forum and help make the rules. We need a dose of creativity.
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:15 pm
by Erik Mortis
I think a lot of people aren't getting the whole "Only be bound by what you want" aspect of this...
Re: Imperial Decree 321 - Shirithian Commonwealth of Nations
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:44 am
by Kaiser Loki III
Hmmmm. Time to re-write the decree. We need to publicize the whole thing more. It started just when MNN went down, so....
