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Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:25 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Well, it is now.

Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:51 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Erik Mortis wrote:I didn't intend for population to be give power directly in the Landsraad. I didn't say it.. cause I didn't built the system that way. I had no idea people would have a sudden turn around in one reign and want democracy. (Anyone remember me asking about expanding the Landsraad, and how everyone told me it was a terrible idea...)
Would I be right in thinking that you intended for this system to purely be about the rise and fall of houses as a whole, but you didn't intend great difference between houses except the Major/Minor status? I definitely went with a more rise and fall of people bent myself.
Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:16 pm
by Erik Mortis
*shrug*.. it doesn't really matter what I intended. Everything took a life of it's own, and everyone had their own vision for what it should be. Scott has decided we should be a demockracy for example. so I'm just gonna let things ride out and not try to use my old plan/model.
Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:06 pm
by Malliki Tosha
We were a democracy of sorts even before this.
Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:56 pm
by Erik Mortis
Closer now.. and more official like.
Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:26 am
by Jonas
DEMOCRACY?! REBELLION! RETURN TO THE PAST! BACK TO THE FUTURE!
OR NOT?
Apologies for this interference, gentlemen. Proceed.

Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:52 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Meritocracy. It just happens that most of our citizens have merit. It doesn't stop it from being a meritocracy, it doesn't imply people have a right to vote by virtue of existing. It doesn't even mean IC we approach anything near a democracy - we're firmly oligarchic, as we always have been. It merely means a number of people OOC have earned the permission to vote if they want to.
Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:55 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Yes, that's all very fine within the system, but we are still a democracy outside of it. The Kaiser rules with the implicit consent of a majority of the people.
Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:00 pm
by Andreas the Wise
And the basis for actual authority in a micronation without the implicit consent of a majority of the people is?
(Sorry, I've been doing political philosophy this semester, and as part of the exam yesterday I wrote an essay on social contract theory. Divine right of kings may work IC but it has no standing OOC, and so a Kaiser not based either on a Hobbesian or Lockeian contract [Locke being the more likely candidate] would be pretty weird. Or maybe Rousseau, we do sometimes look for the general will ...)
Re: Changes in who can vote.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:51 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Yeah, blah blah blah. The issue is that there are some that seem to view us as both an IC and OOC autocracy.