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The Crab Canon

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Douglas Hofstadter is now my official hero/idol/god. Not only did he invent ambigrams, not only did he write a brilliant book on Zen, metalogic, biology, art, mathematics, and the connections between them, but he also wrote the following really really amazing dialogue:Quote:Achilles and the Tortoise happen upon each other in the park one day while strolling.TORTOISE: Good day, Mr. A. ACHILLES: Why, same to you. TORTOISE: So nice to run into you. ACHILLES: That echoes my thoughts. TORTOISE: And it's a perfect day for a walk. I think I'll be walking home soon. ACHILLES: Oh really? I guess there's nothing better for you than walking. TORTOISE: Incidentally, you're looking in very fine fettle these days, I must say. ACHILLES: Thank you very much. TORTOISE: Not at all. Here, care for one of my cigars? ACHILLES: Oh, you are such a philistine. In this area, the Dutch contributions are of markedly inferior taste, don't you think? TORTOISE: I disagree, in this case. But speaking of taste, I finally saw that Crab Canon by your favorite artist, M. C. Escher, in a gallery the other day, and I fully appreciate the beauty and ingenuity with which he made one single theme mesh with itself going both backwards and forwards. But I am afraid that I will always feel Bach is superior to Escher. ACHILLES: I don't know. But one thing for certain is that I don't worry about arguments of taste. De gustibus non est disputandum. TORTOISE: Tell me, what's it like to be your age? Is it true that one has no worries at all? ACHILLES: To be precise, one has no frets. TORTOISE: Oh, well, it's all the same to me. ACHILLES: Fiddle. It makes a big difference, you know. TORTOISE: Say, don't you play the guitar? ACHILLES: That's my friend. He often plays, the fool. But I myself wouldn't touch a guitar with a ten-foot pole! (Suddenly, the Crab, appearing from out of nowhere, wanders up excitedly, pointing to a rather prominent black eye.) CRAB: Hallo! Hulloo! What's up? What's new? You see this bump, this lump? Given to me by a grump. Ho! And on such a fine day. You see, I was just idly loafing about the park when up lumbers this giant fellow from Warsaw -- a colossal bear of a man -- playing a lute. He was three meters tall, if I'm a day. I mosey on up to the chap, reach skyward and manage to tap him on the knee, saying, "Pardon me, sir, but you are Pole-luting our park with your mazurkas." But WOW! he had no sense of humor -- not a bit, not a wit -- and POW! -- he lets loose and belts me one, smack in the eye! Were it in my nature, I would crab up a storm, but in the time-honored tradition of my species, I backed off. After all, when we walk forwards, we move backwards. It's in our genes, you know, turning round and round. That reminds me -- I've always wondered, "Which came first -- the Crab, or the Gene?" That is to say, "Which came last -- the Gene or the Crab?" I'm always turning things round and round, you know. It's in our genes, after all. When we walk backwards, we move forwards. Ah me, oh my! I must lope along on my merry way -- so off I go on such a fine day. Sing "ho!" for the life of a Crab! TATA! ¡Olé! (And he disappears as suddenly as he arrived.) TORTOISE: That's my good friend. He often plays the fool. But I myself wouldn't touch a ten-foot Pole with a guitar! ACHILLES: Say, don't you play the guitar? TORTOISE: Fiddle. It makes a big difference, you know. ACHILLES: Oh, well, it's all the same to me. TORTOISE: To be precise, one has no frets. ACHILLES: Tell me, what's it like to be your age? Is it true that one has no worries at all? TORTOISE: I don't know, but one thing for certain is that I don't worry about arguments of taste. Disputandum non est de gustibus. ACHILLES: I disagree, in this case. But speaking of taste, I finally heard that Crab Canon by your favorite composer, J.S. Bach, in a concert the other day, and I fully appreciate the beauty and ingenuity with which he made one single theme mesh with itself going both backwards and forwards. But I'm afraid I will always feel Escher is superior to Bach. TORTOISE: Oh, you are such a philistine. In this area, the Dutch contributions are of markedly inferior taste, don't you think? ACHILLES: Not at all. Here, care for one of my cigars? TORTOISE: Thank you very much. ACHILLES: Incidentally, you're looking in very fine fettle these days, I must say. TORTOISE: Oh really? I guess there's nothing better for you than walking. ACHILLES: And it's a perfect day for a walk. I think I'll be walking home soon. TORTOISE: That echoes my thoughs. ACHILLES: So nice to run into you. TORTOISE: Why, same to you. ACHILLES: Good day, Mr. T.
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*head explodes*IT!.... COULD..... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRK!!!!!!! Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth
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wow...I like it! -Gryphon Avocatio- Lord Governor and Duke of all Yardistan - Minister of Research and Education, Shireroth - Shirerothian Elder - SAVE THE KIWI!! - Lover of Llamas Give me your child, and by the age of five, I can make him a priest or a thief or a scholar. - SCOTT: You know, I always joke about how nothing will ever be able to get me out of micronations...but...I think if my mother got into micronations that would get me out in a hurry. - GUILDENSTERN:We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.
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COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!! The Through-Marriage-Noble-Of- Brookshire
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I kno just who i'd show this to in RL, unfortuantly he just left for Israel for the next 10 months...
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Pooooor bastard... Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth
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IN THE NAME OF H'GRAA...I haven't been able to find An Eternal Golden Braid (I've seen so much praise heaped on it so often that I recognised it the moment you mentioned Douglas Hofstadter) anywhere in Finland... stupid uncivilised country with no taste for coolness... heck, I haven't been able to find even an English version of Stanislaw Lem's Cyberiad in this poor excuse of a modern nation...Ah well... time to check ed2k... and Gnutella... and if that doesn't work, figure out how much it costs to buy stuff from Amazon... I spend my days enjoying the minty taste that surrounds Erik.
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You absolutely have to get it...every time I read another chapter I think something like "Wow, this is exactly the sort of thing Ari would like" (or, occasionally, "I wonder if this is Ari writing under a pseudonym"). Not to mention that (my version at least) appears to have been edited by a Finn.
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Well, you know, once you decide to write a book as Douglas R. Hofstadter, you can't just declare that "hey, I'm not really Doug, I think I'm a person called Ari Rahikkala" in the middle... I spend my days enjoying the minty taste that surrounds Erik.
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Sure you can! Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth
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Heady Hurty...
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I am writing this post. I have decided now that I shall write the rest as a middle-aged norwegian woman whose husband is on a business trip to moscow.I'll fill you in later on how successful I was. -Gryphon Avocatio- Lord Governor and Duke of all Yardistan - Minister of Research and Education, Shireroth - Shirerothian Elder - SAVE THE KIWI!! - Lover of Llamas Give me your child, and by the age of five, I can make him a priest or a thief or a scholar. - SCOTT: You know, I always joke about how nothing will ever be able to get me out of micronations...but...I think if my mother got into micronations that would get me out in a hurry. - GUILDENSTERN:We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.
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.....qua? Mortis BrookshireKaiser of Shireroth
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I was showing that indeed you can decide in the middle of writing something to change your identity. You just might not be successful...i wasn't, by the way... -Gryphon Avocatio- Lord Governor and Duke of all Yardistan - Minister of Research and Education, Shireroth - Shirerothian Elder - SAVE THE KIWI!! - Lover of Llamas Give me your child, and by the age of five, I can make him a priest or a thief or a scholar. - SCOTT: You know, I always joke about how nothing will ever be able to get me out of micronations...but...I think if my mother got into micronations that would get me out in a hurry. - GUILDENSTERN:We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.
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