The State of English language

[RicLyon]

Saw this on a presentation: Girl, 18 yrs old.Quote:Ello well i rele dno wot put ea !!! Am steff Got msn !!! Luv Meetin new ppl !!! TLKIN on msn none ov dat webcam showin bollox lol !!! So if ya afta a show dunt even go der sowwwwy ! lol ! If ya want mi addy feel free 2 contact me Urm ... am a straight gurlie !!! Love mi boiz!! But gurlie m8s rok !!!! I loveWanna kno n e thin else ask moi Luff ya all

[david northworthy beckfor]

I think it shows the power and flexability of the language If you feel an icy chill...the Conglacio is amongst you

[UEC]

or the sheer corruption of it... E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Kaiseress Semisa I]

Or perhaps the stupidity of people. Edited by: Kaiseress Semisa I  at: 12/1/05 18:16

[UEC]

I'll go with that... E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Stjepan Veliki]

David: Not really. Mostly it just shows the consequences of a nonphonetic orthography paired with the evils of asshole teenagers.My alternative English alphabet and orthography are superior anyway.My álturnetiv inglish alfebet and órþogrefí ár súpíríer eníwej! SF-SNEdited by: Stjepan Veliki at: 12/1/05 18:22

[UEC]

maybe.... I wish our language was more phonetic.. .. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Stjepan Veliki]

Maybe I can start to teach the new 90% phonetic orthography I worked on here, and then it can spread to the world!It looks kinda neat for the most part. All Icelandicy and stuff. SF-SN

[Rarkasha]

You know, the sad part is, I can understand that without really pausing.An interesting thing to note among teenagers, me being a 15 year old myself: Most of you have at least heard of the character-number language known as 1337? Well, you'd expect most people who know leet, even if they didn't use it all the time, to have bad grammer and spelling, corrrect? Me and two of my friends on AIM write "correctly", perhaps the only discrepancy being that we don't always write in complete sentences, but we do most of the time. My other friends all write in broken AIM-speak. --- The first step is admitting I have a problem.

[AngelGuardian93]

Me no understand why people not like her talk. There are no flowers, no not this time. There will be no angels gracing the lines, just these stark words I find.

[david northworthy beckfor]

with the grammer and vocabulary added to english by L337, I would say it is a dialect, rather then just stupid writing. If you feel an icy chill...the Conglacio is amongst you

[Stjepan Veliki]

It mostly just borrows slang vocabulary and grammar from other places. 1337 is more like a script style maybe. SF-SN

[Bill3000]

AOL chat speak is NOT leet. Leet is completely different. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismCitizen of ShirerothBaron of AntyaProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'We.....are.....not....FANTASY!>?!POE' - Scott Siskind, on hearing Bill Dusch say that Shireroth's theme is percieved to be Fiction-Fantasy based";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="'I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock.' - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Stjepan Veliki]

Whatever. They're both guilty of the same sins. SF-SN

[Bill3000]

Not exactly. Leet was formed as a way to get around filters, and is primarily used in terms of sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek. It is very rare to actually see people use it in serious talk. Internet shorthand is quite different, comes "naturally" to the people that use it. Bill Dusch - Archon of SoloralismCitizen of ShirerothBaron of AntyaProud to be Apollonianvar txtList = new Array()txtList[txtList.length]="'Whoa! You're in...college now? You got...older! I guess that's what happens when time passes, but still...' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'The Hindenburg Uncertainty Principle, by contrast states that before you get on a blimp, you can never be certain whether it's going to catch on fire or not' - Scott Siskind";txtList[txtList.length]="'We.....are.....not....FANTASY!>?!POE' - Scott Siskind, on hearing Bill Dusch say that Shireroth's theme is percieved to be Fiction-Fantasy based";txtList[txtList.length]="'me to. well almost, we have to worship the living god, Bill3000.' - Hubert";txtList[txtList.length]="'Y'know what? I am never going to get out of micronations. I think I need to be assassinated or something.' - Jason Steffke";txtList[txtList.length]="'Bill, you are STILL young and stupid.' - Jason Steffke, Control of Destiny 1";txtList[txtList.length]="'I think we've gotta promote you. You now have slightly more diplomatic skills than a random rock.' - Sirithil nos Feanor, to Bill Dusch";txtList[txtList.length]="'Wow. I'm this close to admitting you're no longer young and stupid.' - Scott Siskind, to Bill";txtList[txtList.length]="'ow! I've been thrwappen! Now I have a sudden urge to enter politics...' - Gryphon the Pure, after being hit by a shard of Pure Mischief";txtList[txtList.length]="'I could probably date Hypatia's Mom. Now THAT'S scary.' - Ryan Caruso"; j=parseInt(Math.random()*txtList.length);j=(isNaN(j))?0:j;document.write(txtList[j]);

[Kaiseress Semisa I]

For instance:74|_|pplz tlkn lyk dis r just ahrd 2 unnrstand. Edited by: Kaiseress Semisa I  at: 12/2/05 12:00

[AngelGuardian93]

I think this is a terrible thread, and I refuse to add to it. There are no flowers, no not this time. There will be no angels gracing the lines, just these stark words I find.

[UEC]

The sad thing is I understood the leet the least... E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Hypatia Agnesi]

I understood it more... *throws grenade for the hell of it*BO0O0O0O0/\/\!!!!!!

[AngelGuardian93]

*re-enters the third grade...* There are no flowers, no not this time. There will be no angels gracing the lines, just these stark words I find.

[UEC]

leet just comes out as symbols... not even language...I feel like I should be programming when I see it. E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[vasroixe]

Lack of intelligence? Why no! It takes an advanced brain to screw up English to the point that girl did. Same with the people who use l337.One thing you should keep in mind, about using phonetic spelling for English, is that Standard American is neither the only or only correct phonology of English. Why, even here in Alabama there are pockets of accents that are incredibly different. My grandfather is from the Deep South and never pronounces the letter 'r' unless it precedes a vowel. Shirerothian PatriotPrince of Byzantia

[Stjepan Veliki]

Quote:My grandfather is from the Deep South and never pronounces the letter 'r' unless it precedes a vowel.yes, I know what a non-rhotic accent is.Trust me, I've long since taken into account dialectal differences. You can write any regional accent according to this phonetic system. I just opt for, in my spelling, a form of Recieved Pronunciation retaining the presence of all consonants. SF-SNEdited by: Stjepan Veliki at: 12/5/05 20:38

[Kaiseress Semisa I]

Didn't someone come up with a phonetic alphabet that could be used for just about any language once?

[Stjepan Veliki]

The IPA? (only example I can think of) SF-SNEdited by: Stjepan Veliki at: 12/5/05 20:37