Emigrating

[Gryphon Avocatio]

There he goes... Gryphon Avocatio Shirerothian Elder SAVE THE ELF! Save the Kiwi! See the Site "War is the form nostalgia takes when men are hard-pressed to say something good about their country."

[Ryan]

* What is your name? (or alias): WarVoid* What is todayÂ’s date?: 8-17-2003Section two: optional information* What is your reason for leaving?: You know why.* Do you plan on joining another micronation after Shireroth? If so, what nation? Yes, Babkha.* On the whole, would you consider your experience at Shireroth a positive one? No.

[Scott Alexander]

What? I don't know why! What happened?

[UEC]

Pissed about Graphics... my guess... E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.Edited by: UEC  at: 8/17/03 5:22 pm

[Gryphon Avocatio]

My guess is that he was trying to progress the nation...like aure...but he couldn't do it...like aure... Gryphon Avocatio Shirerothian Elder SAVE THE ELF! Save the Kiwi! See the Site "War is the form nostalgia takes when men are hard-pressed to say something good about their country."

[UEC]

To much to fast? E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Gryphon Avocatio]

He thought it wasn't...we did...we told him we didn't like it...so he left... Gryphon Avocatio Shirerothian Elder SAVE THE ELF! Save the Kiwi! See the Site "War is the form nostalgia takes when men are hard-pressed to say something good about their country."

[Ryan]

Actually, as what will probably be my last post here until such time as the Kaiseress is restored, let me make something clear. I did not leave because of the graphics. I am not that conceited. I could give two shits about that. I knew beforehand you would'nt like them, but figured i'd give it a shot anyway. *shrugs* Shit happens.I'm leaving because of the way you treated Aure. Which, in my opinion, makes you no better than the likes of Bob Silby, Thomas Hubert, Sirithil or even Archetype. Yep, that's right. You've been acting JUST LIKE Archey and Siri. Doesn't that just make you all warm an fuckin fuzzy.Aure was not only my Kaiseress, but she has also become a good friend. And I thought she was your friend as well. But friends don't treat friends like you did. Not only did that upset me, but noone else lifted a damn finger in protest, which means the rest of you are just as bad. I know what you said to her, Erik, and everytime I think about it, it pisses me off even more. This very well may be the internet and a simulation, but you can still hurt people.I was without power for a week. So I missed all the fireworks. But I can read the threads, and I saw what happened. And I heard all about it from those who were here.I left Menelmacar for the same reasons, now i'm leaving Shireroth because of it. Maybe someday, when there's noone left to push away, you'll get the point. Until then, I doubt it'll ever sink through your thick skull.

[UEC]

.... Ryan.... ... Believe what you wish, Know what you wish, But I was not happy with the outcome of that conversation, I didn't want her to leave, nor did I expect it to end that way... I'll proly have to review my logs to see what exactly I said, cause all I know... if that I was not trying to be mean... And She IS my friend. I tried hard that night to get her to stay....If you want.. and Aure agrees.. I'll even post the chat that led to all this... and you'll see it.. word for word... I'm reading over it as we speak... The joy of Trillian.... ...So, Stop trying to make me look like some sort of monster... I wasn't exactly the nicest guy.. but I wasn't intentionally trying to be an ass, or make her feel bad. I tried VERY hard to not make her feel bad.. And do you think I'm happy she left? Do you tihnk I'm happy about how things ended up? I don't know where you get off comparing me to Hubert, Silby and Archy.. I really don't... I'm going to refrain from simply cursing at you... and will post the entire conversation (2 accually) for you and all to see.... E. Metzler (UEC)Duke of Brookshire"Never use a BOO/\/\ist as a diplomat" -- GSClicky Clicky..., Tiss for your own good ya know.

[Gryphon Avocatio]

*makes a political statement he may regret*Personally, I didn't like the way she ruled. She was out to change stuff to much. She joined in June and lasted about two months. That's not long enough to learn how this nation works. She was named heiress of the thrown (by Erik, i believe; i wasn't around so i don't know for sure). That was a bad call. I have to say, newbies shouldn't just suddenly be put in charge of a nation with citizens of more than 3 years tenure. I'm sure she's a lovely person, and quite pleasant to be around too. Maybe Archetype is really cool IRL. The point is, the people did not like what she was doing, and they responded. She left; the reason isn't all to clear, but i've gotten the jist of it from others.Now, Mr. Void, I know i probably won't get a response, but I want to ask you something. You said "I'm leaving because of the way you treated Aure ... I thought she was your friend." How did we treat her. Tell us. You've accused us of something nobody else has said a damn thing about. What did we do? Gryphon Avocatio Shirerothian Elder SAVE THE ELF! Save the Kiwi! See the Site "War is the form nostalgia takes when men are hard-pressed to say something good about their country."

[Kaiseress Jadie]

*sighs*Isn't this a mess?Well Ryan if you read this please say that I loved having Aure as a Kaiseress...she was full of good ideas...however Shireroth was a little too old-fashioned to implement them all at once. I consider her a great friend and still talk to her whenever I can. So do'nt accuse everyone of treating her poorly...I always treated her with the respect that her title deserved. I miss Aure terribly...and I am hoping that she will eventually come back. She was a great Kaiseress and someday she might make an even better one. All we can do is continue on with our lives and hope for the best and stop living in the past.