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Statement of Principal:

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Be it Resolved by the Landsraad of Shireroth:
The Imperial Republic is a micronation, a community and ideally a place for personal enjoyment and growth. With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home. The unabashed insulting of others, their ideas, creations or background is not appropriate behavior, and will not be long tolerated. While disputes happen, and tempers can flare, it is important that individuals remain civil to others, and not engage in harassment tactics or intentional provocation of others. To this extant the Landsraad encourages the Kaiser, heads and governments of Subdivision, and the various moderators, and even general population, to take a dim view of this behavior. It is suggested that when an individual engages in unsavory and disrespectful behavior that they receive a friendly reminder that such behavior will not be tolerated. If such behavior continues a stricter warning be issued, and subtle, but documented, corrective measures be applied to the offensive material. Should a third and final offense be noted, with no sign of sincere remorse, and no extenuating circumstances be noted, the matter should be brought before an appropriate power, and the individual be temporarily curtailed from being able to make any further offensive remarks or action.
I move the above.
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Aye.

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Aye!

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AYE
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This is a very good proposal, which should be the base of a renewed Shireroth.

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I ask that this bill is not resolved until the conclusion of the discussion in http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14021.
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No problem, it seems that a certain sentence has upset (or at least worries) some people. While I know very well that this Statement counts for everyone on the forums, we should perhaps make also very clear that it (of course) also counts for ourselves.


FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.
TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit and live here.
Just a proposal, which should avoid angry statements from former citizens who think that we're trying to characterise them as the devil. ;)
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Then shall we consider amending the resolution? I have no objection.
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Jacobus Loki wrote:Then shall we consider amending the resolution? I have no objection.
Meh, we could do it as a sign of goodwill. It's not like it changes anything about it.

Aye for amendment!
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Aye for Amendment. It's a good idea to keep everyone happy, since that's kinda the goal of this to start with.

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Aye for Amendment.
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AYE for ammendment, but also happy with Ari's version, and can totally understand his argument that this would work better with clear authority etc. It would be worth passing that too.
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Well then, how shall the amended version read?
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Jonas wrote:FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.
TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit and live here.
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Amendment 1 (Jonas):
FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.

TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit and live here.


Amendment 2 (Ari's proposal):

FROM:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable by those that may visit here, and even attempt to call Shireroth their home.
TO:
With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable.

Okay, it seems there are two (err... three) proposals: the original one, amendment 1 OR amendment 2.
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Hmm. I'd say Amendment 1...
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Amendment 2 seems to have more external support. I'd support either 1 or 2. But the original draws to much fire.

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Amendment 2, and I am in favor of this resolution as a whole also.
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Either one or two.
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I'm gonna formalize my Vote as Aye on 2.

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Aye for Amendment 2.
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Aye on Amendment 2
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Aye for no.2
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ABSTAIN both

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Aye on 2. (Less flowery language, but it works.)
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The Statement with Amendment 2 passed.
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The Imperial Republic is a micronation, a community and ideally a place for personal enjoyment and growth. With this in mind the Landsraad feels that certain behaviors are unacceptable. The unabashed insulting of others, their ideas, creations or background is not appropriate behavior, and will not be long tolerated. While disputes happen, and tempers can flare, it is important that individuals remain civil to others, and not engage in harassment tactics or intentional provocation of others. To this extant the Landsraad encourages the Kaiser, heads and governments of Subdivision, and the various moderators, and even general population, to take a dim view of this behavior. It is suggested that when an individual engages in unsavory and disrespectful behavior that they receive a friendly reminder that such behavior will not be tolerated. If such behavior continues a stricter warning be issued, and subtle, but documented, corrective measures be applied to the offensive material. Should a third and final offense be noted, with no sign of sincere remorse, and no extenuating circumstances be noted, the matter should be brought before an appropriate power, and the individual be temporarily curtailed from being able to make any further offensive remarks or action.
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So now just one question. Where do we put it?

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Proclamations of the Kaiser?
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Post by Kaiser Ometeotl I »

I suppose. But do we sticky it. Board announce it. just tuck it into the wiki....

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