Landsraad Restructure 3759 pt 1

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Landsraad Restructure 3759 pt 1

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Procedures of the Landsraad

A. Members of the Landsraad
1. Membership in the Landsraad is determined in accordance with the Imperial Charter and includes only those with votes to cast.

B. Votes
1. Each Duke is allocated 10 votes that they may cast, or assign to subordinate nobles.
2. A Duke must always have the largest single vote amongst himself and his lesser nobles.
3. A Lesser noble may never have more then 5 votes.
4. Votes possessed and cast by a noble must always be integers.
5. A Duke may assign votes as he sees fit among his subordinate nobles, provided the above criteria.

C. Bills
1. The Landsraad passes changes to the LawBook. Each bill is presented in the form of an unambiguous change to the LawBook, and must have a name used by no bill presented before it. Any member of the Landsraad, and the Praetor, can present a bill for voting.

D. Voting
1. After a bill has been presented to the Landsraad, there is a period of exactly four days (96 hours) during which the members of the Landsraad can then vote on it.
2. Each member, or their emissary, may cast zir complete vote in any unambiguous way to represent a vote of aye or nay.
3. A vote only applies to a bill exactly as it has been presented.
4. At the end of the period, the Praetor counts the votes, announces the result, and if the ayes outnumber the nays, updates the LawBook with the changes.
5. The Landsraad voting shall be public.

E. The Praetor
1. The Praetor is appointed in accordance with the Imperial Charter and Lawbook, and has the rights and obligations established therein.

F. Speech
1. Any member of the Landsraad, any duly appointed Emissary, and the Prætor, can freely express their opinion on any bill presented in the Landsraad. All others are barred from speaking in the Landsraad and are directed to speak at the Front Gate.

G. The Deputy Prætor
1. The Deputy Prætor shall act in stead of the Prætor should the Prætor not be available.
2. When acting as Prætor in the manner stated in 1., the Deputy Prætor shall have all powers and duties of the Prætor.
3. In G. 2., "not be available", shall be considered to mean either a stated leave of absence or if the Prætor does not, within 48 hours, fulfill zir obligations to the Landsraad.
This assumes the passage of my lord Duke's billl, which is passing.

It cleans things up a bit. Section B includes my attempt at a compromise between Brookshire and Goldshire. (Though I suspect it was all or nothing with them...)

I post this with the authority granted me by my status as Emissary of Brookshire. I will exit the discussion should by Duke deign to speak on the matter. At that point I'll reenter under my rights granted me under the current Procedures, as a Baron. (see why this needs fixing?)

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Brookshire, AYE (but this post won't count till after the Praetor opens the vote. (Just for you Allot :)...)

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:) love ya erik

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AYE - [Brookshire] [Goldshire] [Elwynn] [Kildare] [Straylight]
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So can the Kaiser speak in the Landsraad under this procedure or not?

Goldshire is satisfied enough with the compromise to support it, although:
5. A Duke may assign the remaining 5 votes as he sees fit among his subordinate nobles.
This seems to be a remnant of pre-compromise idea where the Duke always had to have 5 votes. It should probably be rewritten as something along the lines of "The Duke may assign all votes as he sees fit among his subordinate nobles, provided he follows the above criteria" or something along those lines.

I am not entirely sure what the procedure is for minor friendly amendments actually. Is there any way to fix that without having to muck around with failing this and resubmitting?

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There used to be one, but some total nitwit went and made the procedures all vague and stuff. So no. There isn't, officially.
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I fixed the... Clerical Error.... Now it reads as it should.

Under these procedures the Kaiser can only speak if he's able to cast a vote.

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Re: Landsraad Restructure 3759 pt 1

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Eh, fair enough. Goldshire AYE.

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Why not.

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Elwynn what? Yeah, okay, I guess someone has to do the ugly proposal...

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What do pirates go?

____ me matey. Why you be pokin me?
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Kildare votes Aye.
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Straylight AYE.
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This bill passes with 5 for - 0 against.
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