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Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:15 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Your Honor,

it has come to my attention that the County of Hyperborea and the Duchy of Yardistan have entered into an alliance. I turn your attention to the following section of the LawBook:
II, F, 1 wrote:1. Alliances
a. All Duchies are allied to each other through the Imperial Government.
b. Barons may not make alliances with any other subdivision that is not the Duchy to which they are subordinate.
c. Duchies may not create any manner of alliance with other subdivisions that are not their subordinate.
d. Subdivisions may make no alliance with powers outside of Shireroth.
Since Hyperborea is not a subordinate to Yardistan, I suggest that this alliance is illegal.

Your Honor, I hereby request that this alliance between the County of Hyperborea and the Duchy of Yardistan be declared null and void.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:22 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
I move that this case be dismissed, on the grounds that we are rebelling. Rebels, by definition, need not follow the law of the country they are rebelling against.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:26 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Your Honor,

I suggest that the honorable Mr. Scott is incorrect. By remaining in Shireroth (i.e. posting on the forums) he makes himself subject to Shirerithian law.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:29 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
Your Honor:

With all due respect to Mr. Malliki, that is not the case. An Antican and a Nelagan, for example, would be perfectly within their rights to negotiate a treaty of alliance upon the Shirerithian forum, simply because Antica and Nelaga are not subdivisions of Shireroth subject to Shirerithian Law. Hyperborea and Yardistan are also no longer subdivisions of Shireroth subject to Shirerithian Law, and therefore their use of the forum should be treated as equivalent to that of a Nelagan or Antican.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:36 pm
by Leo Fenrir
ORDER :smashy

Scott, Malliki, please refrain from posting until I have had time to properly examine the law-book.

Both arguments are being taken into account.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:38 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Your Honor,

I wish to amend my charges against Mr. Scott. Please advise on the proper procedure for this.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:41 pm
by Leo Fenrir
You may drop the previous charges in favor of your new charges Duke Tosha.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:43 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Your Honor,

I think the best way would be to start a separate case against Mr. Scott on the subject of treason.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:46 pm
by Leo Fenrir
In that case, I herby dismiss this case as Duke Tosha has retracted his charges against the defendant.

If you wish to pursue further legal action then please present your next case to the court.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:48 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Your Honor,

with all due respect, this case was only about the illegal treaty of alliance between Hyperborea and Yardistan, not about anything else. I request that this case be resumed.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:53 pm
by Leo Fenrir
Duke Tosha, by opening a case against Hyperborea and Yardistan's treason, you are supporting the argument that they are no longer part of the Imperial Republic of Shireroth, in which case Count Scott's argument stands. In short, in this situation only one of these cases may be pursued.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:56 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Your Honor,

with all due respect, I am not suggesting that Hyperborea and Yardistan have seceded, I am however suggesting that Mr. Scott have committed "any act of secession". Furthermore, if I did aknowledge that Hyperborea no longer forms a part of Shireroth, which I do not, any proceeding against Mr. Scott would be pointless. Finally, I wish to again make it clear that the charges of treason are against Mr. Scott alone.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:07 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Your Honor,

in the interest of keeping the two issues separate, I hereby drop this case. I do however wish to reserve the right to resume these charges in the future.

Thank you.

Re: Malliki Tosha, MB v. County of Hyperborea et al.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:00 pm
by steal
Malliki Tosh,

Here we propose nothing. Produce concrete evidence rather than speculation.