Shireroth

I still dont know what you meant though >.<

I simply asked everyone to reconsider their position, and clarify it for those of us with a slightly lower IQ :P

Nathan of Natopia wrote:Anyway I suspect the Safirian space program is based loosely off of Star Wars-scale ships

I was thinking more Eve Online, actually.

Right... can we not talk about fictional space fleets that don't even make sense?

Demon of Fides wrote: Okay, boys, no-one's questioning you manhood. I think, again, we have a conflict of cultures here arising from the various magical/technological levels that various nations exist at. Natopia spent ages pushing forward until they had a spacefleet, as opposed to Shieroth who have always had access to said technology.

Yeah, but we don't have to forget that certain (mostly Kildari) regions are very backwards if it comes to technology. Certain things survived time, but most technology in the more isolated parts was lost.

Harvey, I think it not only was the info which was written about the Omen but also, but I can be wrong, the knowledge it wasn't indestructible. But, like I said: I could be wrong, as the only Omen I knew was the one which was destroyed during the Jasonian War.

NO DESTROYING "KAISER LOKI'S CITY".

(Vanity, thy name is Jacobus.)

Jonas wrote:Harvey, I think it not only was the info which was written about the Omen but also, but I can be wrong, the knowledge it wasn't indestructible. But, like I said: I could be wrong, as the only Omen I knew was the one which was destroyed during the Jasonian War.

Probably. Two Omens were destroyed by nuclear waepons in that Skerry Isles Fustercluck (or whatever) thing years ago. Three down, zero to go. Scott made me promise that the one destroyed in the Jasonian War was absolutely the last one if I was going to recwar an Omen.

That's probably a good thing...

Jacobus Loki wrote:NO DESTROYING "KAISER LOKI'S CITY".

(Vanity, thy name is Jacobus.)

Would you rather we destroy Kaiser Ometeotl's City?

I have a city?

Was Elwynn still interested in some time out on this whole treaty matter, or has that changed? Shall we wait, or forge ahead?

Let's move for a treaty!

Let's.

What would happen if we change the land claim to not include Ardy's old county, retaining it for Shireroth. We've already split it in half...

Kaiser Ometeotl -- I will confer with the government and get back to you.

How goes your discussions about the change in land claim?

Harvey Steffke wrote:I have no problem with people claiming ridiculous technological capabilities, but there's next to no respect for the process anymore. It's always just "oh hai, I've got the biggest pieces of technology ever and I didn't have them yesterday." Jasonia's Omen Gravship was ridiculous in capabilities and technology, yet still gained largely universal recognition abroad as being one of the most powerful military weapons ever. I believe at least partially this was because of the sheer amount of descriptive effort that went into explaining its development, which took almost a year in real time to do. It was all nonsense, but at least it was nonsense that we weren't using as just a pissing contest.

Very true. Gralus found the same thing with magical powers. Nobody questions now the idea that Andreas the Wise is an epic super-mage because
a. He built up to that over several years.
b. They've already spent several years questioning it and now given up.

But as we got older we found the disadvantage that newer members wanted to come in epic too. Some built up well (I have a lot of respect for Atticus for that reason), some didn't. The reality is, you can claim whatever you want; the secret is getting someone else to recognise it.

To be fair, the SCS would fix those problems...

Lord Steward,

The Roth Zera Adurellion has discussed the matter that the Kaiser brought forth. A few weeks ago, both the Shirerithian and Elwynnese delegations agreed to a division of territory. But we are willing to compromise.

Accordingly, the Roth Zera Adurellion would propose that the county of Alalehzamin be divided as the map below indicates, with Tielion Loki divided as a twin city of peace, the northern parts Elwynnese.

The reason is that we would very much like contact with the Ashkenatzi Transelwynnese region and our brethren there, the dam (which through this realization be shared with Shireroth and Ashkenatza) and shared control of the sluice which is vital for navigable trade between Eliria and Araxion.

Furthermore, I would propose that the city of Tielion Loki be an open city, but with the Elwynnese and Shirerithian jurisdictions ending along the Avenue of Zurvan and the Memorial Avenue.

I await your official response,

Daniel Arsalani-Kalirion
President of the Elwynnese Realm

Hehehe. Sounds quite... errr... fun.



Your Niftiness, on an other note: perhaps we should erase the border near Fort Foley. We could add the land between the rivers to the 'Imperial County of Shirekeep'.

Those freaking flak towers!

The Berliner... err... Loki Mauer!

I believe that could work. With the Khan gone much of our concerns I believe have dissolved. Many of my original views still stand on the reasons for your succession, I won't deny it, but you do seem to be slightly less of a foreign machination now.

The sharing of the dam and sluice make sense to me.

Is there anything else to be addressed?

Ometeotl,

I believe the matters to be adressed once the territorial question is settled are:

From our side

- Shireroth's protection and archiving of Elwynn's former forums.

Can't think of much else... At the moment. WIll get back to you. ANything on your mind, Kaiser?

Daniel Farewell wrote:ANything on your mind, Kaiser?

I'm perhaps not His Niftiness but:
- there's still the matter of the SCUE and the Elwynnese money.

I'm sure that we could have an Elwynnese accession to the SCUE according to the Hurmu precedent

*Looks at the city map*

So Elwynn gets the Opium District? Right on the border, no less...

I foresee Tielion Loki, despite its appealing name, becoming a fascinating den of iniquity (or, more likely, becoming an even bigger one than it already was).

So if you don't mind me asking; what's with the nation of peace-hippy-elves doing with a place called Station Terror?! O_o

PS: I am not asking in the capacity of anything... except... well... me!

PPS: I keep wanting to write "Hurmu" instead of "Elwynn". :P

Certain remarks made by the Kaiser make us doubt the veracity of these negotiations to form an agreement between us.

Hey, I've proceeded this far haven't I? My plans are to once we get this worked out is pass it on to the Landsraad to pass.

If you want to cancel the treaty, it's your call.