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Antican History 101: Lesson 1

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:54 pm
by Braden Indianensis
Lesson One:
Forging a Nation


The various regions and clans of Antica were formally united on 17 June, of the 2003rd year of the Common Era, by Delphi Augustus and Octavius Me, both great princes of powerful Antican houses.
They instituted a form of government known as "Dinarchialism," that is, absolute rule by two leaders of equal power. Also, both Dinarchs were commanders-in-chief of one
of the two Antican military services (the Army and Navy.)

Many nations mocked Antica in its infancy, due to the fact that it had declared war on the Theocracy of Mediterranea (and expected said war to be fought in the arena of a computer game), and had spies captured in the Theocracy as well as in the SRA. As per usual, Delphi did the unexpected, and, instead of whimpering like a small girl
named Susan, issued a defiant statement regarding espionage.
After these first growing pains. Antica began to become more
democratic--and more nationalistic, opening the Senate to all citizens, allowing elections, and adopting a single-citizenship policy for Antica proper. However, Antica´s trials were just starting, as you shall see in our next lesson.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:58 pm
by Braden Indianensis
I suggest you keep your browsers locked on these lessons if you intend to pass this class (not that it matters) because your test over Lessons One and Two (still to come) will be held on Saturday, January 14th. CLASS DISMISSED!

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:36 pm
by Braden Indianensis
OK, so, that thing about the test was a joke. Obviously. Not that it matters because no one seems to be around to take this class anyhow. It would be courteous of a few of you fine people to at least pretend to be somewhat interested, although I realize it will be quite an act.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:43 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
I'm sorry. I read the lesson but I didn't have any particular comments. Thank you for providing it, and I am very much awaiting the next one. From where are you getting your information?

If I absolutely must comment on something, the word in your signature should be "inveniam" rather than "enveniam". You have good taste; that's one of my favorite Latin phrases too, and used to be the motto of Audentior, the micronation I helped found.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:47 pm
by Braden Indianensis
Thank you for your very gracious comments. As a matter of fact, my main source is Antica's microwiki. Perhaps I should add that somewhere. Oh wait, I just did!
I just hope it meets Delphi's standards. After all, being the co-founder and former Dinarch, his approval is the very key to the legitamacy of this history.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:04 pm
by Braden Indianensis
Scott, perhaps you or Delphi could help me with a problem I'm having. Was the territory of Antica before our cession to Shireroth just the area of Platea? Or was it larger? The reason I need to know is because I'm planning on writing a fictional history of Antica before the date I set as the "formal unification," and I'm planning to draw a map simply of Antica (for the purpose of organizing my own thoughts) showing placement of mountains, desert, forest, etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:40 pm
by Delphi
Baldwin, I can help you out a bit soon, but as you well know I've got a ton of stuff I'm working on (and another project I took on yesterday), so I'm a bit swamped. I wrote the original article for the Dinarchy on the microwiki, so I can approve of the stuff there for the most part, but if you'd like to ask me any questions at all (I encourage you to, I'll answer you well), just email me. My email's on my board profile.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:49 pm
by Braden Indianensis
Thanks, I may do that. However, you have far more important things to do, so don't feel obligated to answr immediately or to post on this class often.

Bona nyx, everyone.

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:02 pm
by Scott of Hyperborea
The old Dinarchy contained Skiron, Mesoun, Plataea, Kaikias, Phedodah, Nafticon, and the colony of New Brannum in the far east.

PS: Bonam noctem. Nyx is Greek, and for whatever reason phrases like that seem to take the accusative.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:34 am
by Bill3000
The old Dinarchy contained Skiron, Mesoun, Plataea, Kaikias, Phedodah, Nafticon, and the colony of New Brannum in the far east.
Pre-schism, right? And shouldn't you count the territories that were removed?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:25 am
by Delphi
Well we had a few different plots of land over time, with Korhal and Madland joining and leaving us, but for some reason the MCS archives are incomplete, which would lead me to have to go dig up other sectional maps that we may (or may not) have dummied up.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:31 pm
by Braden Indianensis
Thanks for the info. Having this knowledge willl help greatly in the construction of the map.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:25 am
by Chrimigules
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a39/Ch ... b-v672.gif

Dinarchy of Antica at its greatest size.


EDIT: I had to take the image down... it was just... too big.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:26 am
by Chrimigules
Hmmm... maybe I should've cropped that down to just the Antican part... anyway, version 6.7.2.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:24 pm
by Delphi
Dude, that's not even up in the archives!

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:34 pm
by Braden Indianensis
Wow, I wish that little bowing smiley was still here.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:39 pm
by Chrimigules
I saved it when it was made... like all of them... well... 666 to 705...

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:40 pm
by Delphi
I suppose with all the map work you did, you'd have to have.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:49 pm
by Chrimigules
You know, I never was particularly happy about our MCS territory's shape. It looked so funny. At one point someone asked if we were going to be changing our shape from a chicken leg, or something like that.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:01 pm
by Delphi
I remember that... Yeah, how did we get that plot of land, anyway? Did you just pull it out of your ass, or was there a particular reason for it?

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:33 am
by Chrimigules
We wanted the area to the south but some other nation got it... Northworthy... so we took a claim made by someone else who dropped out (became Phedodah, Platea, Kaikias)... and then claimed the little part in the middle that noone else wanted (Mesoun, Skiron).

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:39 pm
by Hertug Gordon II
Can someone go into the war in more detail? For instance I am interested in some of the following questions: How the spies got caught, and what the spies tried to do? What computer game was the war going to be fought? Why were those countries picked out for the war? What did Antican leadership feel would be gained from war? What was the population at the time of the war?

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:36 pm
by Delphi
How the spies got caught, and what the spies tried to do?
The spies were caught one day when I posted in a thread in Mediterranea where my spy was talking, by accident, but I was logged in to my "Chancellor Delphi of Antica" account. I tried to fix it by editing it to a sarcastic comment from what he was supposed to say, and then had the spy respond. Unfortunately, they noticed the IPs right next to each other.
What computer game was the war going to be fought?
Age of Empires II. We didn't quite understand the whole war thing at the time, obviously. We were laughed out of there.
Why were those countries picked out for the war?
Well, the war was only for Mediterranea, and, because we were insulted that we couldn't get onto PHPMX, and we associated Mediterranea with Sander (equated them, basically), and one afternoon when I got back from school, I delivered the declaration of war, and was promptly lauged out and denounced.
What did Antican leadership feel would be gained from war?
I'm not entirely sure now, but I think we figured we'd gain some face, though I'm not sure we thought about it much beyond that it'd probably be a good fun idea to declare war.
What was the population at the time of the war?
I think it was... 3 or 4. We had myself, Octavius, Chuck, and this dude called Brian Pierce, I think, maybe.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:10 am
by Hertug Gordon II
Thanks for the answers I hope you don't mind if I have a few more...

How were you able to improve your foreign relations after the incident? And what the process like in which your foreign relations normalized? By that question I mean as a largely discredited nation, how were you able to repair your relations and grow stronger in spite of such an incident?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:53 pm
by Braden Indianensis
BECAUSE WE WERE THE F*CKIN' DINARCHY OF F*CKIN' ANTICA, BITCH!

[smacks self across face.]

Well, actually, our foreign relations have never been exactly what you'd call "normal," at least, they weren't the whole time I was there. And as far as us regaining face, it had a lot, I think, to do with us simply becoming more mature and respected in the micronational world, no longer mere pledgers being disciplined.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:21 pm
by stevenAntica
When exactly WERE you there? I've been wondering who there you are for quite some time actually...to be honest.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:30 pm
by Delphi
He was there towards the end. After you betrayed the Dinarchy and left.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:13 pm
by Braden Indianensis
It's true that I was with the Dinarchy for a very short time, but I did remain loyal to the bitter end(?), and that explains why I was given Kaikias, the smallest county in Antica, and that's totally just and fair....I'm not bitter.. :D