Current Satelites in Orbit

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Leo Fenrir
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Current Satelites in Orbit

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MAS Format
Name: (Anything you like really...)
Nation: (Your nation)
Image: (Not fully necessary)
Type: (Space station, communications, GPS...)
Orbit: (Microsynchronous, low micras orbit, etc)
Angle relative to equator: (as it says)
Altitude: (as it says)
Coordinates (if microsynchronous): (only if microsynchronous, remember that it has to be on the equator)
Info: (any extra info)
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Name: Vigilante Satelites #'s 1-30
Nation: Shireroth
Image: Please refer to link.
Type: Observational Telescopes
Orbit: Low Micras Orbit
Altitude: ?
Coordinates : Orbital | Orbits vary for each satellite and are adjusted as required.
Info: Vigilante Information.

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Name: NETT System prototypes #'s 1-3
Nation: Shireroth
Image: [CLASSIFIED] for now
Type: Energy harvesting.
Orbit: Low Micras Orbit
Altitude: ?
Coordinates : MicroStationary | #1 60°N;-140°W | #2 50°N;100°E | #3 40°N;110°E |
Info: NETT Information.

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Name: Prophet Array #'s 1-30
Nation: Shireroth
Image: [CLASSIFIED] for now
Type: Direct Surface Communication {please refer to 'Prophet Technology' in Link}
Orbit: Low Micras Orbit
Altitude: ?
Coordinates : MicroSationary | Scattered across the Elwynn, BrookShire, and Yardistan divisions.
Info: Prophet Array Information.

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Re: Current Satelites in Orbit

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Nice, erm... altitudes, let's see what we can do there :P

but argle blargle! another person who doesn't understand geostationary/micrastationary orbits apparently :P

geostationary orbits can only be stationary above points on the equator, if you put it 60°N;-140°W (also, isn't -140°W==140°E) and push it at the required speed to orbit it (obviously you don't just place satellites and push them, but you know what i mean) after 12 hours it would be at -60°N;-140°W (60°S,140°E) 12 hours and it would be back at 60°N,-140°W(60°N,140°E) 12 hours at it would be back at -60°N,-140°W(60°S,140°E) see the pattern? hmm, if you want something over 60°N;-140°W all the time though, you have to have a degree of "not-nearness" you're willing to cope with :P
(you also need more satellites)
Basically, space the satellites around so that as one heads from 60°N to -60°N(60°S), another is coming up. how many satellites are you willing to afford?

2 satellites:
put 1 up at 60°N,140°E and push at T-0hours, then 12 hours later put one at 60°N,140°E and push.
Maximum distance of nearest satellite from 60°N: 60° (they will be at 0°N,140°E when they meet and swap priority (unless you want to do whatever you want to do when they're below the equator too, energy harvesting sounds like something that can be done wherever you are, which actually might mean it would make more sense to just put 1 satellite in micrastationary orbit over the equator :P)

I shall continue as if it is necessary to have a satellite over 60°N,140°E which it may well be, sounds pretty classified...
3 satellites:
put #1 at 60°N,140°E at T-0hours, #2 at 60°N,140°E at T+8hours, #3 at 60°N,140°E at T+16hours
Maximum distance of nearest sattelite from 60°N: hmm... this is a more conplex calculation... (as they will sweep faster over the latitude lines as they get nearer to the equator... I might be able to guestimate using a sine wave :P)
*does some calculations*
T=24/S
degrees away = cos(((T/2)/360)*24)*60 = cos((((24/S)/2)/360)*24)*60 = cos(288/(360S))*60 = cos(4/(5S))*60
I think this should be quite accurate but i wouldn't say 100%
3 satellites would mean the maximum distance to the nearest one would be... fuck these calculations are wrong apparently.... oop, yeah i see, stupid mistake
T=24/S
degrees away from equator = cos(((T/2)/24)*360)*60 = cos((((24/S)/2)/24)*360)*60 = cos(180/S)*60
degrees away = (1-cos(180/S))*60
ok, the maximum distance to nearest satellite with 3 satellites would be: 30°
maximum distance to nearest satellite with 4 satellites: 17.57359°
maximum distance to nearest satellite with 5 satellites: 11.45898°
6 satellites: 8.03848°
7 satellites: 5.94187°
8 satellites: 4.56723°
9 satellites: 3.61844°
10 satellites: 2.93661°
15 satellites: 1.31114°
20 satellites: 0.73869°
25 satellites: 0.47312°
30 satellites: 0.32869°
40 satellites: 0.18496°
50 satellites: 0.11840°
75 satellites: 0.05263°
100 satellites: 0.02961°

also, handily as micras is a totally perfect sphere *glares at anyone who disagrees and threatens to go back to this model* this means that the angle to the nearest satellite will be the angle on that list from straight up.

*draws a picture*
Image

so if you wanted to be able to look down an take arial photographs at all times of day and night, you would want a shallow angle, 5degrees or so...

ok, for the other 2 of those 3 satellites i have to change 60degrees to 40 and 50 respectively...
I'll make a speadsheet
gah, openoffice calc works in radians :(

Where the highest latitude is 60°:
Maximum angle to nearest satellite with 1 satellite: 120°
Maximum angle to nearest satellite with 2 satellites: 60°
3 satellites: 30°
4 satellites: 17.5735931288071°
5 satellites: 11.4589803375032°
6 satellites: 8.03847577293368°
7 satellites: 5.94186792585485°
8 satellites: 4.5672280493228°
9 satellites: 3.61844275284549°
10 satellites: 2.93660902229079°
15 satellites: 1.31114395597166°
20 satellites: 0.738699564291734°
25 satellites: 0.473117921131327°
30 satellites: 0.328686277903603°
40 satellites: 0.184959976012322°
50 satellites: 0.118396294303706°
75 satellites: 0.052630194068497°
100 satellites: 0.029606378056104°

Where the highest latitude is 50°:
Maximum angle to nearest satellite with 1 satellite: 100°
Maximum angle to nearest satellite with 2 satellites: 50°
3 satellites: 25°
4 satellites: 14.6446609406726°
5 satellites: 9.54915028125263°
6 satellites: 6.69872981077806°
7 satellites: 4.95155660487904°
8 satellites: 3.80602337443566°
9 satellites: 3.01536896070458°
10 satellites: 2.44717418524232°
15 satellites: 1.09261996330972°
20 satellites: 0.615582970243112°
25 satellites: 0.394264934276106°
30 satellites: 0.273905231586335°
40 satellites: 0.154133313343602°
50 satellites: 0.0986635785864221°
75 satellites: 0.0438584950570808°
100 satellites: 0.02467198171342°

Where the highest latitude is 40°:
Maximum angle to nearest satellite with 1 satellite: 80°
Maximum angle to nearest satellite with 2 satellites: 40°
3 satellites: 20°
4 satellites: 11.7157287525381°
5 satellites: 7.6393202250021°
6 satellites: 5.35898384862245°
7 satellites: 3.96124528390323°
8 satellites: 3.04481869954853°
9 satellites: 2.41229516856366°
10 satellites: 1.95773934819386°
15 satellites: 0.874095970647772°
20 satellites: 0.492466376194489°
25 satellites: 0.315411947420885°
30 satellites: 0.219124185269068°
40 satellites: 0.123306650674881°
50 satellites: 0.0789308628691376°
75 satellites: 0.0350867960456647°
100 satellites: 0.019737585370736°

It's hardly rocket science :P
I'm not 100% certain they're correct to over 9000 decimal places, but they're damn close. (this is simply a disclaimer in case bill comes here, he will find a minor error in my calculations :P)

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Re: Current Satelites in Orbit

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Spangle... check
Shireroth... check

Stay tuned folks. :evil

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Re: Current Satelites in Orbit

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wait, wut?

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Re: Current Satelites in Orbit

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So I just the wonderful opportunity to see a physics tutor this eve and I am proud the say that I now understand everything you just said! Now just for the record I do understand geostationary / geosynchronous I just hoped that no one would look.... I'll have to be sneakier next time.

Give me a day or two and I'll fix everything up for you! :thumbsup

(I can calculate altitudes now!)

[What is Micra's mass?]
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Re: Current Satelites in Orbit

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Mass: 7.0548 x 10^24 kg (1.181 Earth masses)

Rotation Period: 28.0632346 hours


all the info should be here: http://www.micras.org/wiki/index.php?title=Micras

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