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I bring to the Small Commonwealth's attention that some treaties include the need for people that who already are signatries to the treaty to approve that. That seems rather pointless where such treaties have only one or two members.

Thus I'd like to make it official policy that where a treaty requires previous members to approve a new member, at least three nations must have signed the treaty before an actual vote is required for approval. Before that, the original three members are auto-approved.
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I agree. Should the be in the treaties themselves. or should the Asssembly officially create a document with various accords of that nature?
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I can't recall which treaties have it yet. I'd suggest the Assembly creates an accord that applies to all current and future treaties - then it doesn't need to be included as a clause in each treaty, it's just assumed.
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Some might complain that the accord is put in place by nations that aren't members of that treaty, and thus shouldn't get a say.
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So whoever signs a treaty first should get control over any other member? (because they have a casting vote for at least the next two members)?
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The first three States would form the first "core", Stormark holds, upon which later on new States may be admitted. However, as Stormark is not a party to any such treaties yet, it recognizes the lack of authority to talk of this.

(As a footnote, Stormark believes that the wordings shouldn't be about "signing" or "signatory", but with "deposition of" and "contracting". This makes it easier to disambiguate, as in the law of Stormark, a signature to a treaty something implies, following the general laws of nations, the government's intent to ratify, to seek ratification (enactment). The commitments nationally would enter force upon enactment, but internationally upon the exchange or deposition of the instruments of ratification.)

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I'm not saying I don't agree with the idea. I do. But does the commonwealth Assembly have such power over treaties?
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Since it's Commonwealth treaties, and we vote to let members in via the Assembly, I shouldn't see why not.
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But not all Commonwealth members are members of the treaties being effected. Some could see it as interference, or setting a precedent for the Assembly to interfere with treaties that not all members of the Assembly are part of.
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