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Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:42 pm
by Jonas
"Et tu, Elwynn? Et tu?"

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Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:12 pm
by Malliki Tosha
So, what you're saying is that Shireroth is Nazi Germany and Elwynn is the Jews stabbing Shireroth in the back?

Wow...

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:14 pm
by Chrimigules
The usual tact I expect in Shireroth.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:14 pm
by Behmanesh FarzAn
Do you know what taste is?

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:34 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Well this has clearly won the battle for the opinion of the community...

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:55 pm
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
Ummm... Jonas.. maybe you might want to retract this one.... It kinda sends the wrong message.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:02 am
by Jonas
Malliki Tosha wrote:So, what you're saying is that Shireroth is Nazi Germany and Elwynn is the Jews stabbing Shireroth in the back?

Wow...
The period this was made Nazi Germany didn't even exist, so no. The person stabbing in the back is Elwynn in which it refers to the independence declaration (and its way to 'discuss' things while they kwen what their ultimate goal was).

I would like it if people didn't change my post (image).

I like making / changing cartoons and I did away the reference to Jews (or others). Grow up.


EDIT: Perhaps it's indeed not very tactful in some their eyes. As usual some will try to abuse this case to attack Shireroth (it has already started). In my eyes, it's just an Elwynnese stabbing Shireroth in the back. Nothing more, I'm sorry for those who are offended by it.
It also wasn't meant very serious, more like the other propaganda stuff I made (which is just for fun or a wink to the 'enemy').

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:07 am
by Ari Rahikkala
But this one's so much more... harmonious :(

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:10 am
by Jonas
Ari Rahikkala wrote:But this one's so much more... harmonious :(
:)

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:22 am
by Malliki Tosha
Jonas, your defense is stupid. Nazi Germany did technically not exist, but the images were a part of the anti-Semitic propaganda coming from the Nazis. If you seriously think that people won't get offended by such a picture, you're a moron. This is akin to using pictures of Hitler and adding "funny" text. I really expected better from a fellow European.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:55 am
by Behmanesh FarzAn
I did away the reference to Jews
No you didn't. It is a physical caricature, so you'd have to completely redraw the image.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:22 am
by Ari Rahikkala
HOLD OOON TO THE NIIIIGHT
THERE WILL BEEEEE NOOOOO SHAAAAME

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:01 am
by Harald of Froyalan
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Jonas,

You had better used this one. ;)

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:29 am
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
Who's the Medusa meant to represent?

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:12 am
by Harald of Froyalan
Kaiser Ometeotl I wrote:Who's the Medusa meant to represent?
German leftist politicians who are stabbing the Imperial German Military in the back around the end of World War I. This is known in German as the Dolchstoßlegende and in English as the Stab-in-the-back legend.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:51 am
by Jonas
Malliki Tosha wrote:Jonas, your defense is stupid. Nazi Germany did technically not exist, but the images were a part of the anti-Semitic propaganda coming from the Nazis. If you seriously think that people won't get offended by such a picture, you're a moron. This is akin to using pictures of Hitler and adding "funny" text. I really expected better from a fellow European.
In fact, Hitler was often used as a joke in Allied propaganda. And the fact is: this isn't about Hitler, nor about nazi's. The only reason why you make a big deal about it is because you know everyone is oh-so-afraid of anything that refers to Jews and that period and it will upset others.
Once more: fact is that I don't refer to Jews or anything (at least not by purpose).


Harald, it's indeed a nice one. :thumbsup


And I'm not Shireroth, Chrimigules. And if your fellow Anticans want to know it, I am a Kildarian, not an eastern Benacian. ;)
No you didn't. It is a physical caricature, so you'd have to completely redraw the image.
I don't really see any physical difference between Jews and others, but good... if you say so. :fish

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:54 am
by Jonas
And as this seems popular, I would like to refer to other creations of me. It's more worth the attention as it took more of my time. :document

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:51 am
by Jacobus Loki
The Politically Correct run amok.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:53 am
by Behmanesh FarzAn
Say that when you've been assaulted by people who still circulate those caricatures.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:37 am
by Jacobus Loki
I am simply confuddled that (no one in present company), so many of the people who are upset by caricature (read looney-left) are among the first who would let Israel go down in flames.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:46 am
by Behmanesh FarzAn
That's a bit of a difficult argument to sustain considering that probably 90% of the population are to the left of me and Ardy.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:04 am
by Jacobus Loki
Well, contradiction is a good thing. It's not wise to put people into certain "boxes" based on one or two positions.

If I've done that, I apologize. It is a pleasant thing to be surprised.

I'm not familiar with the log-in, good sir.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:29 am
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
I'm a pragmatic moderate. Just tossing that out there.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:31 pm
by CJ Miller
Left libertarian, as my sig evidences.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:51 pm
by Ruth
Malliki finds this upsetting.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:52 pm
by Malliki Tosha
CJ Miller wrote:Left libertarian, as my sig evidences.
How does that mesh with the racism and homophobia?

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:21 pm
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
I thought you were ignoring us?

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:36 pm
by CJ Miller
Malliki Tosha wrote:
CJ Miller wrote:Left libertarian, as my sig evidences.
How does that mesh with the racism and homophobia?
It's a very simple 938-step method called shut-the-fuck-up-ism.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:41 pm
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
CJ stands his ground. Very nice.

Seriously Mike. Go somewhere else and spread angst and displeasure. We may not agree with CJ's purported beliefs, but we don't need to harass him about them. He keeps to himself about them, and that's good enough for the rest of the community. As a non-citizen you have no grounds to come in and harangue Shirerithians in their own forum.

Now, if you'll play nice, you are more then welcome here.

Re: Et tu, Elwynn?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:55 pm
by Kaiser Ometeotl I
hmm... I'm actually also Left-Libertarian...

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Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

I didn't realize I was that libertarian. Guess it makes sense. Though some of the questions did bug me. Cause I had to analyze them to much for them to make sense in a way I could give an answer too.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test