19:29 <@dr-spangle> erik is right
19:29 <@dr-spangle> "Just another way to anger the MCS...."
19:31 <@ari> How? What's the problem with it?
19:32 <@dr-spangle> it's underhand
19:36 <@ari> I don't see how.
19:37 <@dr-spangle> putting a rule in place and then sneaking past it
19:50 <@dr-spangle> anyway
19:50 <@dr-spangle> it still violates your rules
19:51 <@dr-spangle> it's still a part of shireroth that's claiming land
So... well, yeah. Erik *was* right*. For what it's worth, the purpose that I saw in this crazy scheme was to see how other Batavians than Jonas would function in Shireroth, not to do a landgrab, but if it seems like a landgrab to the world, we don't really have a choice other than to drop it... and if we're going to drop it, we should do it gracefully, simply looking at the world sees us as, and speaking nothing of these plans anymore...Guido Zambelis wrote: (http://micras.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1296&start=15)
shireroth.
drop your crazy scheme, or you are going to push a lot of people over the edge and Erik's forebodings will become true.
UNLESS!
Maybe it's time for Shireroth to give something back to Batavia for a change. I'm willing to join the Vrystaat as a founding member, given a few arrangements:
- Maraguo Vrystaat is founded as an independent state subject *neither* to the laws of Shireroth or Batavia, except laws specifically created by the Commonwealth of Batavia to apply to it. However...
- it will be English-speaking, and all of the laws it's subject to will have to be translated to English
- the forum will be hosted on batavie.nl
- I will have at least a chance of having a position of some authority in it. How about this: Jonas, you get yourself appointed Governor-General. We do some light recruiting inside Shireroth and Batavia to see who's interested, and unless other people eager for leadership show up, I'll take the role of the "local" leader - I'm going to make some suggestions in the government thread about what to call this. (of course the best choice for leader would be someone who actually participated in the recwar where the island was won - so I don't really have much of a claim to the throne here...)
- citizenship in the Vrystaat will obviously mean citizenship in the Commonwealth of Batavia, and be completely separate from Shirithian citizenship
In essence, what I want to do is throw away the original plan and simply replace it with a wholly Batavian project that at least one Shirithian just happens to be personally involved in. It gets us the nifty things we set out to create, and has the added benefit that it probably won't make the world complain about Shirithian landgrabs.