Danger, Will Robinson! Also, a counterproposal.

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Ahem. :document

Perhaps all participants would be considered joint "Owners" of the territory, and thus not citizens at all!

Run it like a stock company!

(or like Babkha, except multiple owners)
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I like teh idea the JacoBus had!

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Not a bad idea at all.

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Poor Jacobus, thinking we can rule it like a corporation... :rolleyes

But it's possible! And it's a good way to spend money in it! :demon

Can you work something out, Jacobus?
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OR I as Arbiter could turn a blind eye unless someone brought it before my court...

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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, pulling the strings of the new country. Everything is quite normal. Everyone go about your business; there is nothing to see here...

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:thumbsup
OR I as Arbiter could turn a blind eye unless someone brought it before my court...
Because it's on this forum you better have two blind eyes. ;)
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Well, the Shah "owns" Babkha, but he is only one guy.

Let's let everyone here "own" land. In some American states, landowners can voter on certain LOCAL things, bond issues, HOA (hom-owners association) kind of rules, based on whether you own land in the jurisdiction.

Even foreigners.

Run it by consensus, no nasty voting and all.

Hey- the HOA idea- Call it a Condominium......
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Jacobus Loki wrote: Let's let everyone here "own" land. In some American states, landowners can voter on certain LOCAL things, bond issues, HOA (hom-owners association) kind of rules, based on whether you own land in the jurisdiction.
I thought the USA was a democratic state, not a feudal one...

Even foreigners.

Run it by consensus, no nasty voting and all.

Hey- the HOA idea- Call it a Condominium......
Condominium sounds nice. But no voting? But how do you get the head of governement appointed?
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All of the "Landowners" (Vrieholderen?) could meet together in a big barn (what's the Dutch/Afrikaaner word for barn?) Dutch is Schuur, according to google. iEgad, that would make it der Groote Schuur...............

The Vryholder or Staadholder would be chosen by consensus. Everybody could argue until it was time to eat and drink, or play rounders or some such.

Arguments would continue until one side saw the logic of the other, got bored, or were mysteriously drug off into the outback (achterland?) and "persuaded", usually by mild threats, alcohol, or financial considerations.

Culture would be quasi-rural. A sapling of Malarbor and a statue of Ardy should be planted near the port, to intimidate foreigners.

Maraguoans could have Freedom in all things, foreign affairs and defence would be run jointly by the Kaiser and the King, but that would be the limit of their powers.

I'm starting to see the best of the Voortrekkers added to sturdy Australian/Minnesota farmers, stirred liberally with the Amish. Add some Alan Copeland and a dash of Sooners to taste.
? :)
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This is a crazily sexy idea! :o
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In dutch 'the big barn' is 'de Grote Schuur'. However, I think it's 'Groote Schuur' in African, and I don't mind using the African translation.

Great ideas, but what if we don't reach a concensus?


I have, by the way, asked Jacobus to become leader of Maraguo and he approved. I hope noboddy is angry about my decision.
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Groote Schuur is also the name of the hospital were the world's first heart transplant took place.
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Harald of Froyalan wrote:Groote Schuur is also the name of the hospital were the world's first heart transplant took place.
Ow really? Interesting... we are doing a heart transplant too. We give this nation life! :evil :tomcutterhamonfire
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Nice imagery.

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:) yey

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I will take that as acceptance, and consensus.

What is my title, again? :)

Found it.

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Do I have to play the "Spitting Image" South African video again?

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no

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There is good in all peoples. Sometimes you have to look for it.

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Kaiser Hasan I wrote:Do I have to play the "Spitting Image" South African video again?
Please do! *gets out popcorn*
Vilhelm von Benkern - The Dolphin-...Count
:: Formerly just "benkern"
:: Rook Sentry of the Order of the Vorpal Blade
:: Count of Mar Sara IIRC
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:: Dux Emeritus of the Order of Mischievous Intent

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