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[Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:28 pm
by Lucard Cyrus Wrend
Liberty Center Research Log wrote: Briefing:

With international competition brewing, and a questionable reputation in some minds, it is in the ISI's best interest to implement a permanent form of security for our in-orbit assets. Research has concluded that the most effective form of defense for the time being will be a series of railguns that will be able to manage both smaller and lager class ships.

Basic Theory:

A railgun consists of two parallel metal rails connected to an electrical power supply. When a conductive projectile is inserted between the rails , it completes the circuit. Electrons flow from the negative terminal of the power supply up the negative rail, across the projectile, and down the positive rail, back to the power supply. This current makes the railgun behave as an electromagnet, creating a powerful magnetic field in the region of the rails up to the position of the projectile. A very large power supply providing, on the order of, one million amperes of current will create a tremendous force on the projectile, accelerating it to a speed of many kilometres per second.

Statistics:

Two sets of Railguns have been envisioned :

-Type A : Rapid Reaction
Ammunition : Kinetic Energy munition
Speed : 300 km/s
Firing rate : 3 rounds/second


Notes: Type A railguns were envisioned with close quarters fighting in mind. They will be most effective against smaller satellites, ships and even debris.

-Type B : Armor Pricing Cannon
Ammunition : Nuclear Heavy Rounds
Speed : 600 km/s
Firing rate : 1 rounds/minute


Notes: Type B railguns were envisioned with the heavier class ships, such as IRS Gravships, in mind. Due to the delicate nature of the uranium core in type B ammunition, loading is a much more laborious process this decreased the firing rate significantly. There are other restrictions, mainly the nuclear nature of the munition, that will restrict production and usage of these railguns.

Integration:

All but the smallest class of satellites will have a minimum of one Type A battery mounted for defense, while larger structures, such as Pulse and Surge class satellites are expected to support four type A batteries and one type B. Defenses for Minvera station will include a set of twenty type As and five type Bs.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:35 am
by Andreas the Wise
Stop stealing CAA ideas. Railguns are Prodigy's.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:30 am
by Leo Fenrir
What is CAA?
And I'll have you know that Railguns are an extremely popular concept. :p

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:12 am
by Santelran Rottsaa
Railguns are not unique to the CAA, Andreas.

Actually, there are very large ones being tested by the US Navy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:41 am
by Käthbad jënRöijanin
yeah, andreas, Prodigy just likes to think his ideas are original, when in truth most of it is either in testing production, or in theoretical development

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:48 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Santelran Rottsaa wrote:Railguns are not unique to the CAA, Andreas.

Actually, there are very large ones being tested by the US Navy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun
I'm well aware they're not original in the whole world. But they're what he's famous for. I wouldn't bother building a giant hovering ship with city destroying lasers, because JASO has that covered in Omens ...

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:31 pm
by Leo Fenrir
I'm sorry?...

But seriously, what's the CAA?

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:39 pm
by Andreas the Wise
A prominent Tokian guild, producers of various advanced weaponry systems since WW2.

http://novatainia.org/Gralus/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=221

That's the non-hidden part of their subforum. The hidden part has a lot more (I used to be a member).

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:39 pm
by Aurangzeb Khan
Leo Dine wrote:I'm sorry?...

But seriously, what's the CAA?
Prodigy's proto-ISI. In many ways he was a little like you, only whereas you have sheep he had 8ft killer cyborg bears. The boy had issues...

Edit: What Andreas said is also correct... and technically more informative.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:19 am
by Santelran Rottsaa
Andreas, to be fair, not very many people are aware of things that go on in Toketi, nor do many actually care, especially when their ideas aren't original.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:19 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Corey being mean aside, I don't see any mention of rail guns in that forum at all. How could he steal an idea that is not being publicly available? :confused

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:35 pm
by Andreas the Wise
As I said, they've done lots of stuff in international wars ... I'm fairly sure they used railguns in at least one. They've definitely used them in guild wars.

You're all making me feel old now :fish - I remember something that seems perfectly obvious to me (Railguns = CAA), and so assume everyone knows it ... but forget about all the young'uns (that and the fact that most of you don't bother to have anything to do with Gralus. I've learnt all your history and legends ...)

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:43 pm
by Santelran Rottsaa
I wasn't being mean, Harvey, it's the complete truth. Toketi gets shafted because everyone knows Andreas and automatically their minds go to Novatainia. I have no affiliation with Toketi, I'm not complaining, just speaking fact.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:52 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Not quite. Tokians, generally, haven't been too interested in foreign affairs, and haven't made too much of an effort to get others to find out about the wonderful stuff they do. So I try when I get the chance.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:55 pm
by Santelran Rottsaa
Maybe they just think there's something more fulfilling in what they do than being recognized for it.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:59 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Andreas the Wise wrote:You're all making me feel old now :fish - I remember something that seems perfectly obvious to me (Railguns = CAA), and so assume everyone knows it ... but forget about all the young'uns (that and the fact that most of you don't bother to have anything to do with Gralus. I've learnt all your history and legends ...)
Guilt attempt = success. Gimme a place to start on the Toketi stuff.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:29 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Sadly its not nicely organised. You can try the wiki, though that's mainly Novatainian/my stuff. Otherwise, the original Tokian forum is good.

Leo, don't worry about my grumbling too much. Do Railguns if you want. Just don't try to use them on Prodigy, if he ever returns to Shireroth ;)

(whereas if you try to build anything like an Omen, I will hunt you down and destroy it ... :document )

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:36 pm
by Leo Fenrir
Meh. Who needs Omens when I got GIANT SPACE LASERS..... ya

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:38 pm
by Andreas the Wise
Someday, I won't introduce you to Fides. The world would probably be doomed within a month if I did ...

*runs back to Novatainia to step up Fides' secret doomsday device program*

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:56 pm
by Leo Fenrir
Third time his/her (im not too sure) name has come up. I'm already liking him/her.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:03 pm
by Harvey Steffke
Apparently it's both right now. I'm not going to elaborate on that.

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:16 pm
by Andreas the Wise
OOC he's a guy. IC he's suffering from diachronic fission and so is simultaneously playing a guy and girl. It's complicated.

When we're back in the right dimension, you should really consider visiting Novatainia ...

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:42 pm
by Santelran Rottsaa
Andreas the Wise wrote:Otherwise, the original Tokian forum is good.
Or the forum before that has stuff too.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/tokidoki

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:53 pm
by Andreas the Wise
http://novatainia.org/Gralus/phpBB3/vie ... 8913#p8913
"... Only one being in this country uses them, and that's Prodigy. Second, it has a bunch of railguns mounted on it. Who else uses more than one railgun on one ship?"
"Nargoth?"
"True. But he would be using something more magical, less technological."
"Touche."
I rest my case. :p

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:55 am
by Santelran Rottsaa
On what?! We've been over this! Railguns aren't original!

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:12 am
by Ryan
A railgun consists of two parallel metal rails connected to an electrical power supply. When a conductive projectile is inserted between the rails , it completes the circuit. Electrons flow from the negative terminal of the power supply up the negative rail, across the projectile, and down the positive rail, back to the power supply. This current makes the railgun behave as an electromagnet, creating a powerful magnetic field in the region of the rails up to the position of the projectile. A very large power supply providing, on the order of, one million amperes of current will create a tremendous force on the projectile, accelerating it to a speed of many kilometres per second.
I ask: How are the rails buffered from transmitting a live current to any other metal object they touch once the circuit is opened?

1. The rails would require a non-conductive buffer, such as rubber, between them and any other conductive surface (e.g. the hull of a ship).

2. Any explosive that comes into contact with live electricity will trigger an explosion. This would also have to be insulated from the conducting rails (via, for example, rubber track wheels).

3. How are these protected from the water? Any water, from ocean spray since we're talking about a boat, will short out the circuit. You'd have to encase the entire unit within a protective bubble with a retractable launch door. Even then, these would be useless in a storm.


It would be far less susceptible to the elements if the projectiles had their own propulsion systems. I could defeat these things with a water gun!

Re: [Technology] Railgun Defense Batteries

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:10 am
by Aurangzeb Khan
[MoMAD IIIA.] Imperial Defence Administration wrote:MoMA Confiscation Notice

In compliance with MoMA Order 3820/001 the aforementioned "Railgun Defense Batteries", having been determined by the MoMA to be associated with and integral to the Defence Space Initiative (DSI), is hereby confiscated and appropriated by MoMAD IC.;

Inquiries regarding this confiscation order are to be forwarded to MoMAD IIIA. Sub-Section D, Claims Department, DSI Team, Duty Clerk, Cluster 9, Routing Team 6, PO BOX RM101 for forwarding to the MoMAD IIIA. Directorate of the Commissariat, Directorate of the Commissariat Secretariat, DSI Working Group, which shall have ten working ASC years from in which to reply from the moment of receipt of the initial inquiry from the Duty Clerk of Cluster 9, Routing Team 6 of the DSI Team.