Kingdom of Dura
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Re: Kingdom of Dura
But the point is, he hasn't shown nothing but loyalty and devotion to Shireroth as evidenced by him starting a new micronation in February. You can't convince me otherwise.
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So you mean that it is okay to be a citizen of another micronation, as you are, but it is not okay to start a new one?
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It is quite okay to be John Darcy, but once you stray outside of those parameters, things get a bit iffy.
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Love and Happiness,
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Marchioness of Goldshire
Baroness of Lakhesis
Kaiseress Anandja I
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JOHN III ENTHRONED AS KAISER, PROCLAIMS CIT RESTRICTIONS
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Thanks for standing up for me. I don't even know him that well, Idk why he would go off of me for.
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It's not you. He just does that.
you both
you both
Re: Kingdom of Dura
Example 1: Barack Obama takes up citizenship of Kenya. He holds no formal nor informal positions there, just a passport. Whilst there would be an enormous hue and cry and calls for his impeachment, I'm not entirely certain that he would breach the laws of either nation. Nevertheless, it's not the done thing, is it?Kaiseress Anandja I wrote:So you mean that it is okay to be a citizen of another micronation, as you are, but it is not okay to start a new one?
Example 2: Lou Piniella, who is entitled to claim citizenship of Spain by grandparentage, is offered the crown of Spain upon the death of Juan Carlos. Piniella is an American citizen by birth and was schooled in the USA so he would have recited the Pledge of Allegiance a coupla thousand times. What would it say about his loyalty to the United States if he did become King of Spain?
These two examples involve nations with large populations. It is possible to be a nobody; however it is almost impossible to be a nobody in a micronation. Everybody does something prominent, and if you have split loyalties then you are not being true to any of them.
Example 3: John Darcy is the reigning monarch of a micronation which has no contact nor connection with Shireroth, nor with any other micronation on Micras. John comes to Shireroth just as himself and begins putting some ideas and effort to work in the Shirerothian way, without at any time citing his other micronationality. Sure, I'm not giving 100% to either one, but I'm not waving the other flag around here either. Whilst in Shireroth, I am Shirerothian and nothing else.
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Discontinuity Acknowledged.
It is theoretically possible for Bill Clinton to be elected President of France.
That's one reason micronationry is more fun, especially in Shireroth.
It is theoretically possible for Bill Clinton to be elected President of France.
That's one reason micronationry is more fun, especially in Shireroth.
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Because he disagrees with your conduct. Deal with it.Syr William wrote:Thanks for standing up for me. I don't even know him that well, Idk why he would go off of me for.
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A significant plurality disagrees with my behavior on a regular basis. One gets used to it.
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'cepting on this - he's not promoting the Shirerothian way. ... and while not citing his other micronationality he sure did make a reference to the fact it exist just to tell us he didn't cite it.darcyj wrote:John comes to Shireroth just as himself and begins putting some ideas and effort to work in the Shirerothian way, without at any time citing his other micronationality.
All three real good real life examples tho (yea sure).
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I'm almost certain this holds no pratical legal meaning. Kids do what they are told. They're too young to understand what the pledge of allegiance means. Honestly I'd rather they have people recite it once or twice when they're older though. Maybe when you get your driver's license renewed or something.darcyj wrote:Piniella is an American citizen by birth and was schooled in the USA so he would have recited the Pledge of Allegiance a coupla thousand times.
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John is a micronational icon, but he's a newbie in Shireroth. Cut him a wee bit 'o slack, me buckos!
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They made us recite the pledge every day.
Which reminds me.
From my first micronation (the one Shem and I did on clay in cuneiform.)
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They made us recite the pledge every day.
Which reminds me.
From my first micronation (the one Shem and I did on clay in cuneiform.)
Amazing what one remembers.I pledge allegiance to the flag
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And to the Bureaucracy for which it stands,
One Empire, over all, divisible,
With tyranny and justice for some.
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We are, he hasn't been keelhauled yet.Jacobus Loki wrote:John is a micronational icon, but he's a newbie in Shireroth. Cut him a wee bit 'o slack, me buckos!
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Marchioness of Goldshire
Baroness of Lakhesis
Kaiseress Anandja I
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Re: Kingdom of Dura
John, a lot of the citizens are 'disabusing' their citizenship to get treaties when the time is right. That includes me (I have played representative of Batavia before) and Andreas (Gralus), but you can't say we are traitors to Shireroth.
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Well is the treaty going to be considered?
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This has been put on hold since we changed the way we recognize other nations. When we get everything in order at the MiniEx you'll be the first to know.
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Kaiseress Anandja I
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Baroness of Lakhesis
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IMHO, Dura needs a pretty letter saying nice things, esp. in light of this:
http://www.micras.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3532
MCS acceptance.
http://www.micras.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3532
MCS acceptance.
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Re: Kingdom of Dura
Confirm or deny: This nation is dead and I can unsticky this?
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Re: Kingdom of Dura
Confirmed. Last post made in October by Jake, but most posts are dated July or earlier.
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