Shireroth

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:37 am**

Please rank these flags in order of which ones you like most to least (ie 1 is your favorite, 9 is your least favorite).
Every Shirerithian citizen as of this moment may vote in this contest, regardless of whether they want a new flag or not. The old flag isn't on here, because the winner of this design contest will go head to head against the old flag in the Landsraad. However, partisans of the old flag are welcome to rank eg Nick's design, which looks very similar, first.

The votes will then be added up using some sort of preference ranking thing or single transferable vote or one of those sorts of things. Suggestions are welcome for exactly which. Please be honest - ie don't rank a flag lower just to prevent it from winning; rank it lower only if you honestly like it less.

Voting open until...I dunno, Friday ought to be long enough.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:38 am**

My votes:

1 - Explosion Flag
2 - Ryan's Flag
3 - Macedonian Flag
4 - Bill's Flag
5 - Assyrian Flag
6 - Nick's Flag
7 - Iain's Flag
8 - Triangle Flag
9 - Artz's Flag

EDIT: Changed after talk with Bill and Ari.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:44 am**

You could have at least asked me which of my flags I wanted to submit.

My favorite one of mine was BadIdea#6, without the white square and thinner bars.

1 - Explosion Flag
2 - Bill's Flag
3 - Triangle Flag
4 - Assyrian Flag
5 - Macedonian Flag
6 - Iain's Flag
7 - Nick's Flag
8 - Artz's Flag
9 - Ryan's Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:47 am**

Sorry; consulting with others not always my strong point. Ballot has been changed; please update your vote if necessary.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:06 am**

1. Ryan's flag
2. Nick's flag
3. Iain's flag
4. Assyrian flag
5. Macedonian flag
6. Artz' flag
7. Bill's flag
8. Explosion flag
9. Triangle flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:17 am**

1 - Ryan's Flag
2 - Explosion Flag
3 - Macedonian Flag
4 - Assyrian Flag
5 - Triangle Flag
6 - Nick's Flag
7 - Iain's Flag
8 - Artz's Flag
9 - Bill's Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:18 am**

1. Macedonian Flag
2. Ryan's Flag
3. Explosion Flag
4. Bill's Flag
5. Assyrian Flag
6. Artz's Flag
7. Nick's Flag
8. Iain's Flag
9. Triangle Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:28 am**

1. Explosion Flag
2. Bill's Flag
3. Macedonian Flag
4. Assyrian Flag
5. Ryan's Flag
6. Nick's Flag
7. Triangle Flag
8. Artz's Flag
9. Iain's Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:31 am**

1. Triangle Flag
2. Macedonian Flag
3. Assyrian Flag
4. Explosion Flag
5. Bill's Flag
6. Ryan's Flag
7. Iain's Flag
8. Artz's Flag
9. Nick's Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:52 am**

1: Explosion
2: Artz
3: Bill
4: Nick
5: Iain
6: Macedonian
7: Assyrian
8: Ryan
9: Triangle

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:07 am**

1 - Ryan's flag
2 - Macedonian flag
3 - Nick's flag
4 - Artz's flag
5 - Assyrian flag
6 - Iain's flag
7 - Bill's flag
8 - Explosion flag
9 - Triangle flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:20 am**

1-Ryan
2-Macedonian
3-Assyrian
4-Bill
5-Artz
6-Iain
7-Nick
8-Triangle
9-Explosion

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:29 am**

1. Bill's Flag
2. Explosion Flag
3. Assyrian Flag
4. Triangle Flag
5. Macedonian Flag
6. Ryan's Flag
7. Iain's Flag
8. Artz's Flag
9. Nick's Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:06 pm**

That's cheating kind of. We are all voting for flags we don't want.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:07 pm**

1. Explosion Flag
2. Triangle Flag
3. Macedonian Flag
4. Bill's Flag
5. Ryan's Flag
6. Iain's Flag
7. Nick's Flag
8. Assyrian Flag
9. Artz' Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:21 pm**

Please rank all of the flags, guys. That's the point - prioritization. If you're afraid that the flags you really hate would win, we might be able to do a second round if you really want it. Either way though votes of like 6-9 don't give much points, anyway.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:30 pm**

I will when Wil and CJ does.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:44 pm**

Fixed mine, and Wil fixed his.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:28 pm**

This means nothing... I just figured I oughta get a say in the matter...for my own reasons.. and others suggested it was a good idea. I'm still LOA.

1. Explosion (Ari had a compelling argument)
2. Iains's (with Crest and NOT mango)
3. Nick's
4. Bill's
5. Artz'
6. Triangle
7. Assyrian
8. Macedonia
9. Ryan's

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:01 pm**

1 Ryan's Flag
2 Explosion Flag
3 Macedonian Flag
4 Assyrian Flag
5 Artz' Flag
6 Nick's Flag
7 Triangle Flag
8 Bill's Flag
9 Iain's Flag

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:11 pm**

It's a funny thing. The original flag's problems, as far as I can see them, were that it had a weird pointless white blob in the middle (looking especially... blobby... at lower resolutions), that the bars were way too thin, and that it had a profusion of poorly chosen colours that nobody even remembers what they stand for anymore (and whatever it was, it's not any values that Shireroth has had since 2001). Ryan's flag does nothing at all to solve the last problem, exchanges the middle one into looking like a dartboard, and exacerbates the first one. SO WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP VOTING FOR IT? ASNOTEUHNAOEUDNAOTHEUNAOTH.DUE

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:20 pm**

Ari's impassionated ASNOTEUHNAOEUDNAOTHEUNAOTH.DUE has led me to change my top choice to explosion, especially since in a suprise turn of events Erik seems to be supporting that now.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:27 pm**

The only reason why I voted for Ryan's flag is THAT I LIKE IT. Fuck all this good flag layout crap. Vote for the flag YOU LIKE, end of story.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:58 pm**

Ari Rahikkala wrote:It's a funny thing. The original flag's problems, as far as I can see them, were that it had a weird pointless white blob in the middle (looking especially... blobby... at lower resolutions), that the bars were way too thin, and that it had a profusion of poorly chosen colours that nobody even remembers what they stand for anymore (and whatever it was, it's not any values that Shireroth has had since 2001). Ryan's flag does nothing at all to solve the last problem, exchanges the middle one into looking like a dartboard, and exacerbates the first one. SO WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP VOTING FOR IT? ASNOTEUHNAOEUDNAOTHEUNAOTH.DUE

First of all, it's not "MY" flag. Scott designed the initial layout, and all I added was the star, because a white square made no sense at all. I just happen to like it, which is why I voted for it. It's a star/prism emanating rays of light in different colors, representing the different cultures and people of Shireroth. That's enough meaning for me.

In regards to the width of the bars; they are no longer bars when they are changed to rays. Therefore width does not really matter. You could effectively do the same thing with the Macedonian flag, which has wider rays, by replacing the white sun with a white star. The whole point of appeasing the traditionalists was to keep it as close to the original as possible, while still redesigning the whole layout so that it each aspect was substantiated. This was done, and it works quite well IMO.

AZATHOTH.HPL

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:12 pm**

First of all, it's not "MY" flag.

Ah, sorry about that, I was just going with the names that were established for the vote... I can respect that with a little bit of creativity you can see the disparate colours of the flag as representing different Shirithian cultures (and I suppose it's sort of appropriate in that sense given how little consistency Shirithian cultures have). Thing is, to me, a brown and red and green and yellow line all emanating from the center only represent incontinent fruit salad.

The whole point of appeasing the traditionalists was to keep it as close to the original as possible, while still redesigning the whole layout so that it each aspect was substantiated.

Well, as you can see, one big traditionalist has already been appeased and voted for the Explosion Flag (one of the more compelling names you could have for a flag of Shireroth, btw). Hopefully others will fall in line

ZYGOHISTOMORPHIC PREPROMORPHISM.[]

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:37 pm**

1 explosion
2 Ryan
3 Bill
4 Nick
5 Artz
6 macedonia
7 iain
8 assyria
9 triangle

EDIT: SOMEONE changed my mind... grumble...

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:36 pm**

What is the point of having a vote if people are going to change their votes after they've been cast? Scott, you really should have made the vote by secret ballot.

EDIT: Scott, are you using STV later?

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:02 pm**

I refuse to participate in this destruction of history.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:56 pm**

1. Artz's Flag
2. Iain's Flag
3. Ryan's Flag
4. Explosion Flag
5. Macedonian Flag
6. Nick's Flag
7. Triangle Flag
8. Bill's Flag
9. Assyrian Flag

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:23 pm**

Gman Russell wrote:I refuse to participate in this destruction of history.

This is still the creation of history. Any destruction of history will be the prerogative of the Landsraad.

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