Megamod 2: Cartographic Boogaloo

[Ari Rahikkala]

Well, it's been a while since the last megamod and a lot of stuff has happened, but little of it has gotten reflected on the maps. I would like to at least keep the MCS claimsmap at http://micras.org/maps/claimsmap.png and the baronies map at http://shireroth.org/shirewiki/Image:Sh ... s.new1.PNG up to date - there are other maps, but I find these two important since the former is part of the public image of Shireroth to other micronationalists, and the latter is the map that most fully reflects our administrative structure.

http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=9520 never did get turned into a mod to submit to the MCS. That's going to get fixed soon enough... but I'll have to know what changes to make first. I did a bit of legwork tracking down various issues of cartographic consistency in all of the duchies. Well, mostly Brookshire, since it turns around cartographic legwork is pretty time-consuming and a bit boring. But I do have something to say about everywhere except Goldshire and Straylight. The following list includes every entry in http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=9520 that didn't already get submitted to the MCS otherwise:

Brookshire:

- new city, Citadel, in Caverden: http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... 15#p118515
- Vorpmadal renamed to Neurak: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=10009
- City of Jugensk founded in Shimmerspring (found on the MCS map, not on the baronies map)
- County of Ž founded: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=160&t=9580
- Solecism renamed Greater Lakhesis through a couple of other names
- Skyla Islands. Should they be named on the map? See http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 82#p121882 and http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=211&t=10033 http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 13#p123513
- The whole Musica issue. Who holds Musica at the moment? Because truth is that I just don't remember.
- Ynnraile and Neurak spun off into Goldshire: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11651

Goldshire

- Ynnraile and Neurak are now Goldshirian, obviously, but are there any other changes you'd like to make?

Elwynn:

- the renaming of Frieden to Smjörkýr - see http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... =30&t=9800
- the foundation of the city of Frieden - see http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... =95&t=9813
- Ardashirshahr is spelled Ardashirshar (i.e. without the last h) on both the MCS and baronies maps for whatever reason
- What's the story with that city in Agnesia? Is it Vijayar, Vijayanagra, or Vijayanagara? I'm leaning toward the last one, but not completely sure...
- I have no recollection of when Elwynn got reorganised into baronies... fortunately you can see from the forum structure which counties go where
- Echo City founded: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=10599 - couldn't find a map of where it's located, though. Should be marked as a regional capital: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=10595

Kildare:

- Lost Woods renamed to Derovograd: http://shireroth.kuroshiro.net/forum/vi ... 152&t=8891
- Some of your counties have been getting traded about different baronies for a bit; The forum structure should be up to date so I think it's best to just redraw the baronies from that

Yardistan:

- Northern Absentia renamed to Lulz: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=185&t=11176
- Eastern Absentia renamed to Agningas: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=181&t=11005

Dukes, citizens, countrymen, lend me your legs. What's been going on in your, or your neighbour's, Duchy that should be reflected on the claimsmap or the baronies map? Speak now or until the next megamod that's probably not going to be sent any time soon hold your peace! Also, as you'll notice there are some unclear bits and questions in the list above, I'd like it if the appropriate people could clarify stuff.

[Aurangzeb Khan]

That would be Vijayanagara. Echo City meanwhile is more or less opposite Eliria on the river.

[Malliki Tosha]

I'll adress Brookshire.

- new city, Citadel, in Caverden.
Yes.

- Vorpmadal renamed to Neurak.
Yes.

- City of Jugensk founded in Shimmerspring (found on the MCS map, not on the baronies map)
Yes.

- County of Ž founded.
Please repeal this, as Max is no longer with us and the name is stupid anyways.

- Solecism renamed Greater Lakhesis through a couple of other names
Yes.

- Skyla Islands. Should they be named on the map?
Skyla Islands is not a part of Brookshire, but forms a part of the Imperial County. I suggest they not be named on the map, but that is really up to the Kaiser.

- The whole Musica issue. Who holds Musica at the moment? Because truth is that I just don't remember.
Musica is Yardistani, and the area around Nee in southern Greater Lakhesis should be marked as Brookshirithian (that is, without a border) on the MCS map.

- Ynnraile and Neurak spun off into Goldshire.
Yes.

[Santelran Rottsaa]

Straylight, plz.

[Cho'Gall]

Wasn't Vijayanagara destroyed?

[Harvey Steffke]

Any hope of an estimate on how much time we have to decide on mods? I need some time to consider Goldshire's status before making any map-level changes.

[Andreas the Wise]

I remembered where the updated Kildare map went.

http://www.novatainia.org/Gralus/User%2 ... re%201.png

Yes, it doesn't have cities on, but it shouldn't be too hard to copy-paste the red and black parts off the existing barony map onto here.

[Gman Russell]

Yes to both of those.

ALSO

1. Don't forget the city of Baiagaat on Mirioth to the south.

2. The holy lands of shireroth is now called the Barony of the United Isles.

3. Lac Glacei and Mar Sara are the barony of Vorpmadal.


Other than that, cheers.

[Jonas]

Derevograd became Mahozarcheep.

[Ari Rahikkala]

Thanks for the information so far, everyone.

Wasn't Vijayanagara destroyed?

How about this, Leo? I would really like to have the appropriate Duke confirm any removal of cities...

Any hope of an estimate on how much time we have to decide on mods? I need some time to consider Goldshire's status before making any map-level changes.

Eh, give it a week at least. This thing has been on the shelf for a year, it can wait for a little bit longer before I start mapping...

Straylight, plz.

There is as of yet insufficient magic for that.

[Iskander Mirkdale]

Re Elwynn, apart from the name changes mentioned previously, this map still seems pretty much up-to-date: http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=9625

[Jonas]

http://www.novatainia.org/Gralus/User%2 ... re%201.png

Andreas, can you make a map like that for the Small Commonwealth? Every member nation in a different colour, and without non-members. Then we get a nice summary of the influence and location of the SC in Micras. I will pay 350 erb.

[Käthbad jënRöijanin]

Straylight, plz.

There is as of yet insufficient magic for that.

A wizard didn't do it...yet?

[Andreas the Wise]

http://www.novatainia.org/Gralus/User%2 ... re%201.png

Andreas, can you make a map like that for the Small Commonwealth? Every member nation in a different colour, and without non-members. Then we get a nice summary of the influence and location of the SC in Micras. I will pay 350 erb.

If you can convince Spangle/Craitman to do another layered claimsmap, sure. Otherwise, I'll need at least 500, because its a lot of effort to remove city names neatly.

[Jonas]

http://www.novatainia.org/Gralus/User%2 ... re%201.png

Andreas, can you make a map like that for the Small Commonwealth? Every member nation in a different colour, and without non-members. Then we get a nice summary of the influence and location of the SC in Micras. I will pay 350 erb.

If you can convince Spangle/Craitman to do another layered claimsmap, sure. Otherwise, I'll need at least 500, because its a lot of effort to remove city names neatly.

500... all right.

[Ari Rahikkala]

http://shireroth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=161&t=11767 Smotretka to Mejor

[Malliki Tosha]

- The County of Thanatos is to be renamed "Lakhesian Tribal Nation".

- In the Lakhesian Tribal Nation, there are two islands to the south of Port Solecism. Please add a city called "Thanatos" on the southeastern tip of the western island.

[Ryan]

The city of "Bucc" in Florencia should be "Buccini". Somehow the latter half of the name was cut off.

I think that error has been there for a while...

[Maksym Hadjimehmetov]

Why the hell is the Elwynn River Sluice still there?
I was under the distinct impression some dangerous clown rendered it inoperable...

[Jonas]

Don't forget it, Andreas.

[Andreas the Wise]

Remind me in two and a half weeks - I'm not doing it in the middle of exams.

[Badkitties]

Meeeeoooowww! Magickal!

[Chrimigules]

Why the hell is the Elwynn River Sluice still there?
I was under the distinct impression some dangerous clown rendered it inoperable...

Considering that sluices merely regulate the amount of water going through, rendering it inoperable would either make it more effective at letting water through or would cause the water to bunch up behind it and then flow over it, which would also make it more effective at controlling water flow.

[Jonas]

2 weeks... bah. Is there nobody else interested? 500 erb to earn!

[Arviður]

What is it you'd exactly want, Jonas? I might be able to do something.

[Jonas]

What is it you'd exactly want, Jonas? I might be able to do something.

A blank map of Micras with every member nation of the SC separated. But it's a lot of work.

[Arviður]

Sorry, not worth 500

[Jonas]

Sorry, not worth 500

750?

[Arviður]

Now I'm getting interested. What do you want or not want on the map? PM me details, sir!

[Malliki Tosha]

Are we doing something with this or what?