New flag

Post by **Scott of Hyperborea** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:40 am

Antica has mocked our flag. I'm not so concerned about how bad our flag is, but it bothers me to see the Anticans ever be right about something, because it might lead them to believe they're right about other things and then they'll get even cockier. Therefore, I believe we should change our flag.

Should I even bother trying to think up another design, or are people just opposed in principle to this as usual?

Kaiser Meskan II · Post by **Kaiser Meskan II** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:46 am

Nope. Oddly enough, I support it. Our flag is horrible, and I've wanted to get rid of it ever since it was created. To me, the flag had screamed of a newbie micronation - while it would have been good six years ago when Shireroth was subordinate to Jasonia, it doesn't work now, at all.

Braden Indianensis · Post by **Braden Indianensis** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:40 pm

Your flag is as ugly as homemade sin. It looks like it was thrown together on MSPaint.

Post by **Gman Russell** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:31 pm

I refuse to change this hallowed flag! I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO CHANGE IT!

Besides, changing it will just make them feel vindicated.

Besides,

THEIR flag sucks too.

Braden Indianensis · Post by **Braden Indianensis** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:53 pm

HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE ENSIGN OF THE REPUBLIC?! A duel is in order!

Kaiser Meskan II · Post by **Kaiser Meskan II** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:18 pm

The Dinarchy flag was better, in my opinion.

osmose1000 · Post by **osmose1000** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:53 pm

I'd like to know why the Republic/Dinarchy/Antica in general's flag has a bird with wings that look like folded sheets of paper or missiles.

Delphi · Post by **Delphi** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:02 pm

Octavius found the picture, and stuck the shield on the front. I believe there's lots of symbolism in it, but I don't really remember what it was.

Conglacio · Post by **Conglacio** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:14 am

I like the Dinarchy flag.

Andwhile I am one for keeping tradition. In this perios of Shireroth's history, the rules are different.

Maybe a new flag would be ok.

osmose1000 · Post by **osmose1000** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:48 am

You know, this is exactly like when we wanted to change the forum colors - everyone outside the site thought what we had was ugly, a lot of people inside agreed, but no one actually came up with anything better at the time. :P

(Although, to be fair, I DID spend time tweaking the red text to a point where Fax could actually read it without hurting his eyes, aparently being the only one to recognize that it hurt him :P)

Chrimigules · Post by **Chrimigules** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:28 am

I grabbed a picture from somewhere the eagle from Moldovia's flag, heavily edited it, and replaced its head with the head from another, more well known, eagle symbol. The symbol on the shield essentially translates (or is intended to translate) as: Peace (white) cutting through Darkness (black) through the use of fortified military might (embattled pale) by two great, autocratic persons (fasces).

Ari Rahikkala · Post by **Ari Rahikkala** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:36 am

This is true flag winnage. Suck it down.

hypatias mom · Post by **hypatias mom** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:30 pm

Your Straylight flag is awesome! Great design.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:21 pm

For once, I actually agree with keeping history intact.

Stick with the flag we've got.

WolvinX84 · Post by **WolvinX84** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:42 pm

I agree. We should leave the flag alone. It looks a bit lame, yes, but it is not so bad as to replace such an old symbol, for as arbitrary a reason as someone making fun of it.

Braden Indianensis · Post by **Braden Indianensis** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:44 pm

But it's simply ugly. Even the colors are tacky, in addition to a childish composition.

Conglacio · Post by **Conglacio** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:42 pm

From Erik's journal...

My cantacts inform me Shireroth is talking of changing the flag... idiots.. fools... All of them. I wish I could just go in and shut that place down. They have made a mockery of what it once was. Destroy the last and oldest symbol of the nation... yeah.. that's a good idea... I really thought better of them... wait.. no I didn't.. Oh well. Not my problem anymore.. I hate that place... I wish it would just die and stop pulling something I was once proud of through the mud... It really does make me sad to see them do this....

osmose1000 · Post by **osmose1000** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:35 am

Oh, now this totally sucks. On one hand, I like the old flag, but on the other hand, changing it would piss off Erik because he can never let go of Shireroth and is sore that he is no longer the leader of the nation. Either one pleases me...

H4773r 3lfs0n · Post by **H4773r 3lfs0n** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:30 am

regardless of what ANYONE said, founder or mocker, i say the flag is fine.

"it looks dumb" "its old" "its not cool enough"

BAH!

take a look at the old world flags of real nations.

Switzerland? RED! uh.. With a big white cross!!

Germany? er... 3 bars of colors on top of each other.. ya! almost conquered the world twice, our flag looks like a 2 year old could make it.

Britain? lets just put all the flags from our subordinate nations on one, yeah X's!! and t's!!

The Shirerithiian flag is fine. if it aint Baroque, dont fix it.

Conglacio · Post by **Conglacio** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:42 am

On the site used to aid in judging the flags, the 3 you mentioned are pretty high up..

siriain · Post by **siriain** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:54 pm

Straylight flag (winnage) + Shireroth colours (kinda) + MS Paint =

Braden Indianensis · Post by **Braden Indianensis** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:18 pm

I like!

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:48 pm

That looks like something off of my Intellivision from 1983. :P

I agree with Erik. Yes, the world will soon come to a screeching halt.

osmose1000 · Post by **osmose1000** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:58 pm

Ew. Ew. EW!

Post by **Gman Russell** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:03 pm

Keep the old one!

Also, That makes me sad to see Erik so bitter. The country is changing yes, but dragging it through the mud? Wow, that's pretty bitter...

Neike Taika-Tessaro · Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:25 am

osmose1000 wrote:You know, this is exactly like when we wanted to change the forum colors - everyone outside the site thought what we had was ugly, a lot of people inside agreed, but no one actually came up with anything better at the time. :P

Priceless observation (though I got used to it incredibly quickly over the past days).

How much control do the admins of Shireroth have over this installation of phpBB? Has a different template been considered? Just to drag the topic up again briefly. Providing, of course, it's not taboo for illegal immigrants to discuss such things.

Re: Flags. I find them really hard to come up with. It's hard to create something that still looks distinctly flag-like, but doesn't just recreate the three-stripe (or other common) themes. So this issue has my sympathies.

osmose1000 · Post by **osmose1000** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:17 pm

I'm fairly sure we can control graphics and colors and more or less everything except things that require access to the code itself, since Greg Dean is so kindly hosting the forums for free.

Shireroth - Official Micronation of the Real Life Webcomic? :P

Neike Taika-Tessaro · Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:28 pm

osmose1000 wrote:I'm fairly sure we can control graphics and colors and more or less everything except things that require access to the code itself, since Greg Dean is so kindly hosting the forums for free.

A different template would require a method of file uploading (FTP or otherwise), so I assume that's off-limits...

osmose1000 · Post by **osmose1000** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:35 pm

Well we still have our own webspace and could upload it there, it's just on a different server than this and we'd have to link it.

Neike Taika-Tessaro · Post by **Neike Taika-Tessaro** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:38 pm

osmose1000 wrote:Well we still have our own webspace and could upload it there, it's just on a different server than this and we'd have to link it.

That won't work (as far as I know) - it needs to be in the database here, and locally accessible, the forum needs to be able to open the files, not just read them over the web. I think. I'm not sure how flexible templating is with phpBB, though.

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