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Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:30 am
by Kaiser Ikol II
Suspiciously similar to the Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3974, but this time I'm going to make sure people actually vote on it. If this fails, I won't propose this measure again for the remainder of my reign.

Be it enacted by the Landsraad of the Imperial Republic of Shireroth that the Lawbook, Chapter III.C, be amended as follows:

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1. Lands
a. Titles may have lands associated with them, held in fief.
b. These lands will pass with the title, to an heir, if the title itself can be inherited.
2. Duke
a. Duke is a title that holds the rank of Patrician and can be passed to a designated heir.
3. Margrave
a. Margrave is a title that holds the rank of Patrician but cannot be passed to a designated heir.
4. Baron
a. Baron is a title that holds the rank of Equestrian and can be passed to a designated heir.
5. Thane
a. Thane is a title that holds the rank of Equestrian but cannot be passed to a designated heir.
6. Count
a. Count is a title that holds the rank of Civitas and can be passed to a designated heir.
7. Jarl
a. A Jarl is a title that holds the rank of Civitas but cannot be passed to a designated heir.
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1. Lands
a. Titles may have lands associated with them, held in fief.
b. These lands will pass with the title, to an heir, if the title itself can be inherited.
2. Patrician Titles
a. A noble of the Patrician rank whose title can be passed to a designated heir shall be known as a Duke.
b. A noble of the Patrician rank whose title cannot be passed to a designated heir shall be known as a Duke-Palatine.
3. Equestrian Titles
a. A noble of the Equestrian rank whose title can be passed to a designated heir shall be known as a Baron.
b. A noble of the Equestrian rank whose title cannot be passed to a designated heir shall be known as a Baron-Palatine.
4. Civitas Titles
a. A noble of the Civitas rank whose title can be passed to a designated heir shall be known as a Thane.
b. A noble of the Civitas rank whose title cannot be passed to a designated heir shall be known as a Thane-Palatine.

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:40 am
by Daniel Farewell
The Duke Kalirion in Cape Farewell: YEA (5)

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:10 pm
by Erik Mortis
This already went up and failed.

Mortis, NAY (5).

If something fails and we put it up again and again.. I have issue with that.

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:15 pm
by Kaiser Ikol II
I know. I don't approve of it in general, but I think knowing that at least one Duke didn't get to vote on it because he was away without Emissary, and that that would have changed the vote, provides an extenuating circumstance.

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:32 pm
by Shyriath
Sunderspray AYE (1).

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:46 pm
by Malliki Tosha
Lakhesis AYE, (1).

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:29 am
by Falkner van der Sluijs
Jarl in Asantelian NAY (1)

Sorry, Palatine still sounds stupid. I like the names how they are now.

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:53 pm
by Andreas the Wise
I believe, under Procedures of the Landsraad H 4, I can temporarily revoke emissaryship for a specific debate and take that power for myself for that one debate, without inhibiting emissary status in other debates.

In that case, I vote AYE for Kildare (5). If I can't do that, I ask Jacobus to vote AYE and humbly beg forgiveness from the Praetor for this breach of decorum. But since I have a couple minutes spare I thought I should vote this through.

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:11 pm
by Erik Mortis
You're good.

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:18 am
by Aurangzeb Khan
The Khanjarl in Alalehzamin: Aye (1)

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:01 pm
by Erik Mortis
Passes 13-6-0

Mikes.. why didn't you close this while I was gone?

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:27 am
by Malliki Tosha
Sorry, thought you said you wanted to do that stuff when you got back. Must have misinterpreted.

Re: Noble Titles Nomenclature Act of 3981

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:04 am
by Erik Mortis
I said you could close, but that I would deal with updating the lawbook when I got back.
No worries.