Regarding recent events between Babkha and Sathrati

[Hesam Jayatar]

Since the situation has come to somewhat of a conclusion with no one particularly insulted, it had occured to me that Babkha has yet to return the sword of vengeance. Since Jacobus will likely return soon, and upon his return, require the sword for his coronation, I thought it would be fitting to bring up this issue. I had figured that simply returning it would be a bit dull, and was wondering if anyone had a more novel idea for the swords repatriation?



PS, For those interested, Sathrati is not a term of insult. Kukafu Khan determined the word Sathrati by looking at the etemology of the words Shire and Roth. Which I believe he translated into "stand of trees in the field". From this the Persian root words, (which I cannot recall now) and finally the Babki variation: Sath and rati or Sathrati.

[Andreas the Wise]

Kildarian mages combine with Piscatores to steal it back?

[Prodigy Almighty]

that Babkha has yet to return the sword of vengeance.

Wrong, as far as my information is concerned - i.e. when Ari reassured us that the plot was a giant Babkhan fallacy - Corey has the Sword in his custody, and the Babkhans never really got it in the first place...

[Andreas the Wise]

Yeah, but it'd be nice to have the Babkhans not contest that fact ...

[Prodigy Almighty]

Yeah, true 'nuff. Everything typically works better when everyone is in agreement.

[Hesam Jayatar]

How is it that Corey has the sword? If he does infact, can we work out a narrative anyway?

[Andreas the Wise]

Um ... Erik just said he had it. Personally, I think you've got it and I'm all in favour of a narrative.

[Ari Rahikkala]

This annoys me. My inability to reconcile my feelings of annoyance with the fact that the stakes are so low annoys me even more.

I happen to believe that micronations are sovereign over their own culture. There are voluntary exceptions such as mapping society membership, but overall, the micronation is the unit of cultural control in micronationalism.

The IAC was somewhat in consensus over that we needed to get the sword back one way or another, until Erik came along and said he'd post a message referring to the Sword still being held by the legitimate authorities - and he did (betcha were wondering why that thread was posted, well, now you know). It doesn't matter much that Erik said it - I'd have gone along with a proclamation from Scott or Corey too, or if it were a story written in character, pretty much any Shirithian, as long as it was posted in Shireroth. We are sovereign over our own culture after all.

So, yeah. Now I'm kind of bound by having gone along with the canon in Shireroth when it's a very boring kind of canon. "Hesam took the wrong sword with him" is a silly story, and the implication that comes with it that the Sword always goes with the legitimate kaiser is even sillier. That's what annoys me.

I move that Erik and I, when we were saying the sword's still in Shireroth, were speaking in our roles as the Baron of Dolor and Duke of Straylight, not infallible authorities, and that we were mistaken. We'll decide on some way for the sword to return to Shireroth (maybe Andreas's plan of going out and stealing it, maybe my plan of Hesam being nice and personally handing it over), and once it's back Brrapa, not Erik, will identify it as the right one.

One thing that I *would* prefer done in any case is make the issue of the sword one between Shireroth and Hesam, not one between Shireroth and Babkha. Elaborate foreign affairs would just make it too abstract imo

[Malliki]

The Imperial Judex volunteers* a team of Imperial Marshals to assist in this matter, if required.

*i.e.; orders.

[Hesam Jayatar]

I completely agree with Ari on this issue, however, we should bare in mind that Erik's statement was made before I made my intent known. But there is a logical arguement which prevents this from blowing out of proportions:

1. I stated I still have the sword
2. The Sword belongs to Shirerothian culture and is not infact corporial.
3. Shireroth could just as easily ignore my claim that I currently have it.

= There would be no purpose in my opposing the return of the sword since for all purposes there is nothing for me to take.

Meaning, Shireroth gets the sword one way or another. As such, why not have an interesting narrative about its return?

One thing that I *would* prefer done in any case is make the issue of the sword one between Shireroth and Hesam, not one between Shireroth and Babkha. Elaborate foreign affairs would just make it too abstract imo

Either way, everyone in Babkha knows this is jsut in good fun. If you want to make it Shireroth vs me, that's fine as well.

[Oroigawa Koreyasu]

I'm up for a nice narrative...

[Chrimigules]

Obviously you need somebody to be inserted into Babkha, kill some people, and retrieve the sword.

It could get mighty interesting.

[Kaiser Loki III]

I've got an idea or two........

[Jess]

Blow there commie asses to hell? Wait...they are in Babkha...

[Kaiser Loki III]

I think we should take the name they invented, make a phantom Barony out of it, and satirze them silly.

[Malliki]

Or call that phantom Barony "Babkha".

[Kaiser Loki III]

we should translate it into Yardistani (opens phrasebook) Hmm, Comes out "Balgurd". Can't be that controversial.....

Mike you know you really shouldn't tempt me.......

[Malliki]

But everybody knows that Babkha is the Earthly portal to Balgurd.

[Kaiser Loki III]

Then who wouyld want to go there? (shudders)

[b3n|<3r|\|]

I don't give a damn about a sword.

[Kaiser Loki III]

You mean this one?
(Pats scabbard at hip.)

[b3n|<3r|\|]

No, this one.